Ashlee Simpson and Live TV

[-Gavin-]

hahaha, Owned

 

[Beelzebub]

I don't think Jessica Simpson is a ditz. Anyone who is that fucking stupid has to be smart. People make fun of her all the time but she is laughing all the way to the bank, paycheck in hand.

 

[arglebargle]

Her Career is DONE

I'm puzzled as to why her career even started. Do people actually listen to this kind of crap, or are these big record companies trying to blindly shove these ubergeneric "singers" down the public's throat?

 

[Rose Immortal]

I'm puzzled as to why her career even started. Do people actually listen to this kind of crap, or are these big record companies trying to blindly shove these ubergeneric "singers" down the public's throat?

A combination of both...some listened to them, enough to sell a lot of records very quickly, so then the record companies started shoving them down the public's throat even worse. A vicious cycle.

 

[Thraxz]

The sign of a genius is someone who can appreciate the intrinsic benefits of their actions. People who can be driven to do things for something other than their materialistic wants.

That being said...

That was incredibly funny watching her dance around like a putz for a bit after she got exposed for what she really is, a fake. In truth, I'm getting really sick of these countless assholes calling themselves "artists" when all they do is sing what other people have wrote for them. Maybe I'm using a self only definition of an artist, but I certainly don't think you can be classified as a artist if you are simply being someone else's instrument in their music (That usually sucks.)

 

[Liquid Shadow]

I don't think Jessica Simpson is a ditz. Anyone who is that fucking stupid has to be smart. People make fun of her all the time but she is laughing all the way to the bank, paycheck in hand.

I always wondered if it was an act myself. There's no real way to tell, but methinks you are correct.

 

[SyXified]

Jessica is definitly a HUGE ditz in reality. She's simply not bright. However, she does have a nice innocence about her that makes her personality appealing. She's a perfectly nice person with a decent sense of humor, she's just dumb. Not even the smartest person could pull off that same ditzy character all the time. Once in a while a big word would slip out, or a logic thought or somthing.

As for Ashlee's career, I get the impression that the team of song writers and producers that took her on are all kind of newbies to the whole system. Labels probably didn't want to waste a really good talent on kids learning the game, so they hooked up a semi-talent star with a semi-talent cast to see what they could do. Based on the way her songs are, it seems like a bunch of song writers who have some talent but need more practice. The song Pieces of Me does have some redeeming qualitys, the prechorus melody is pretty decent, again the song just reflects certain immaturities. Same with her band, all young kids with potential trying to get their act together and their name in the game. Ashlee is appealing to a young demographic because she is so ordinary in talent, looks, and personality that it is easy to think "if she can do it, I could" or "that could happen to me". Not a bad angle to take when the money spent on music is increasingly focused in the younger population.

 

[Rose Immortal]

In truth, I'm getting really sick of these countless assholes calling themselves "artists" when all they do is sing what other people have wrote for them. Maybe I'm using a self only definition of an artist, but I certainly don't think you can be classified as a artist if you are simply being someone else's instrument in their music (That usually sucks.)

It can suck...but I think if you genuinely have a talent at singing or playing an instrument, and you can do it well and with passion, it's OK to have someone else write for you.

Ashlee Simpson did not show that sort of talent.

I think it's preferable to write your own material, but I wouldn't personally make that an absolute requirement for being an artist. In the world of classical music that wouldn't exactly apply...many of the good players do not write what they play.

 

[TotenMitMacht]

I, too, am pissed off that shitty people can sell millions of albums by lip synching and claiming "acid reflux disease" (aka throat decay from bulimia) as a resonable excuse. However, I realized that I don't need to be angry, because I will be avenged. In thirty years when no one remembers her because her implants are sagging and her face is ravaged from years of face lifts, she will realize that, despite the money, her entire life was a sham and a mockery of human existence. She will realize that she commited a terrible crime every day throughout her pseudo-career, a crime punishable by death. She murdered her spirit. When she comes to terms with this, I hope she can do the honorable thing and kill herself and any wretched offspring she might vomit from her syphilis-ravaged cunt.

 

[Metal Immortal]

I, too, am pissed off that shitty people can sell millions of albums by lip synching and claiming "acid reflux disease" (aka throat decay from bulimia) as a resonable excuse. However, I realized that I don't need to be angry, because I will be avenged. In thirty years when no one remembers her because her implants are sagging and her face is ravaged from years of face lifts, she will realize that, despite the money, her entire life was a sham and a mockery of human existence. She will realize that she commited a terrible crime every day throughout her pseudo-career, a crime punishable by death. She murdered her spirit. When she comes to terms with this, I hope she can do the honorable thing and kill herself and any wretched offspring she might vomit from her syphilis-ravaged cunt.

I agree, except I think a plane crash would do justice like it did with that other one... what's her face? Oh yeah! It doesn't matter. Those assholes aren't important!

 

[Rose Immortal]

Wishing her or her children dead is carrying it way too far...sheesh.

 

[arglebargle]

Jessica is definitly a HUGE ditz in reality. She's simply not bright. However, she does have a nice innocence about her that makes her personality appealing. She's a perfectly nice person with a decent sense of humor, she's just dumb. Not even the smartest person could pull off that same ditzy character all the time. Once in a while a big word would slip out, or a logic thought or somthing.

Heh, I totally agree. She seems like an absolute moron.

 

[Liquid Shadow]

Wishing her or her children dead is carrying it way too far...sheesh.

Yeah...wtf guys?


For those complaining about mainstream music and them making so much money for doing nothing and how much the music sucks ect ect ect, I quote myself from another forum:

Consider this:

A vast majority of people in the world do not focus on music much at all. They see music as something to listen to in the background as they ride to work or something with a beat to dance to at parties. To these people, a simple, catchy tune is all they need. Yeah, they COULD be listening to something like Allan Holdsworth or Planet X, but they don't understand the music and it sounds like noise to them.

To those of us who are musicians ourselves and study music either as a profession or a hobby are obviously more interested in technical music and more experimental things.

Our music is no more "interesting" or any "better" than the music listened to by the masses. Those words are completely subjective. To musicians, bands like Dream Theater are much better and more interesting than someone like Brittney Spears, but to most people who don't understand the music, Dream Theater is a snooze. Then the opposite goes for people who understand music who listen to simple mainstream music...it's a snooze to them.



So what's the solution? Quit whining. If you are good enough at what you do, you can still make a comfortable living on more advanced music than the simple, catchy radio tunes. There are plenty of clubs and venues that feature bands like Planet X, Allan Holdsworth, and the Virgil Donati band, so quit bitching about other people making a living off one type of music and get good enough at your own type of music that you can make a living as well. You're obviously not going to make millions with that type of stuff, but so what? Welcome to the world.

So yeah...if you're so much better, get out there and prove it. The Baked Potato (or any other place like that) would gladly let any of you perform there, if you had the knowledge, chops, and tight playing it takes to keep up with the guys who play there. Think you are up to it? Go do it. Don't think you can do it? Then quit whining on the internet about other people.

 

[Katalepsy]

I think I missed the part where that video was supposed to make me laugh, because I didn't even crack a smile while watching it... What exactly made it so damn hilarious, and "surprising," as people so fondly put it? Yeah, it's soooo hard to believe people lip synch...It seemed to me like she made the best of her mistake, and kinda laughed at herself, although she probably was beyond embarassed, I know everyone in this forum would be embarassed if you made a noticable mistake while playing live. Everyone knows that pop singers lip synch, even people that LOVE pop music. And just because they lip synch doesn't mean they do not posess a shred of talent...Someone tell me exactly how her voice was recorded in the first place for her to lip synch over...Yeah, that's what I thought...And yes, I know I said lip synch way too many times in there.

 

[The Yngster]

I laughed at her dancing, and even the voice recording sucks so she still has no talent.

 

[Katalepsy]

I laughed at her dancing, and even the voice recording sucks so she still has no talent.

You just personally don't like the voice recording, but that doesn't mean it sucks. I don't like pop vocals either, but I'm not going to say they suck, or that pop singers have no talent. In your eyes (or ears, mind, whatever), she might suck, but to the millions of people who listen to her music, she must be pretty good. And perhaps her best talent is dancing rather than singing

 

[Liquid Shadow]

I know everyone in this forum would be embarassed if you made a noticable mistake while playing live.

It's totally different if you are lip synching though. Then you have no mistakes to make.

It seemed to me like she made the best of her mistake, and kinda laughed at herself

She blamed her band afterwards. She didn't laugh at herself, she just shifted the blame.

And just because they lip synch doesn't mean they do not posess a shred of talent...

In her case it does. Have you ever heard her actually sing?

Someone tell me exactly how her voice was recorded in the first place for her to lip synch over...

Higher end recording programs have auto-tune functions. Your intonation is off? No need to worry, we'll let the computer fix it for you.

You just personally don't like the voice recording, but that doesn't mean it sucks

It does if her vocal technique is zilch and she can't even control her own intonation, let alone tonal control of the voice (airy vs. beefy vs. raspy, ect.)

She cannot sing. Period.





Simpson is a hypocritical fake. She cannot sing, and never has been able to. She who was "against lip-synching" just got caught in the act, and tried to make excuses (throat problems my ass) and blame her band for playing the wrong song. How did your vocals start with the microphone by your waist then?
She can avoid it all she wants, but she is undeniably a fake. Caught red handed.

I think we can all agree on that much. What needs to stop is all the bullshit generalizing people do with this kind of thing. A lot of pop singers lip-synch, but they still provide entertainment, which is what the masses want. There are also pop singers who actually DO sing, and have incredible amounts of talent (Seal for example...wonderful voice that man has, and some great music on his latest CD).

 

[dargormudshark]

I think the bitch got what she deserved

 

[Jax]

Wishing her or her children dead is carrying it way too far...sheesh.

Agreed..some lip synching bimbo is hardly reason for such vitriol..

 

[arglebargle]

Someone tell me exactly how her voice was recorded in the first place for her to lip synch over

There are so many ways for a decent producer to tweak a singer's voice, the voice you hear on a pop record usually bears no resemblence to the singer's natural voice; it's been overproduced to oblivion.