been hearing rumors of plans for 3 new star wars films??
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SwambA
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+1 on this! I might even go as far as saying Revenge of the sith was the best out of them all! Totally captured the Star Wars feel and I've been a hard-core fan from the age of 7 when I saw episode 4 at the movie theaters in 1977.
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EerieVon
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LOL I never REALLY realized how terrible those movies were until I saw this guys reviews. He ANNIHILATES them
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SwambA
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It was the best of the 3 prequels but I don't know if I'd take it that far
Its almost blasphemy right?!?!
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This thread is embedded in hypocrisy. Anyone who would consider making 3 more Star Wars movies clearly does not understand what happened in the first (and only) 6 films. Go watch them over.
There is nowhere to go. Lucas is a genius. The movies are a clock. You can't add more gears. The only thing you can do is open the clock up to see what the gears look like, and we'll get a taste of that with the live action series.
Example: has anyone tied together the fact that Obi-wan is "just a crazy old man" and that Yoda, when Luke just meets him, is a nut case? That's not coincedence. I've seen the movies 10 gazillion times and I just figured out why. Often when I watch I find something new like this. And NEVER does it point to a new trilogy. Case closed, class dismissed, bleed the fifth.
Oh, and to the haters, go f*ck yourselves (friendly gfys)
There is nowhere to go. Lucas is a genius. The movies are a clock. You can't add more gears. The only thing you can do is open the clock up to see what the gears look like, and we'll get a taste of that with the live action series.
Example: has anyone tied together the fact that Obi-wan is "just a crazy old man" and that Yoda, when Luke just meets him, is a nut case? That's not coincedence. I've seen the movies 10 gazillion times and I just figured out why. Often when I watch I find something new like this. And NEVER does it point to a new trilogy. Case closed, class dismissed, bleed the fifth.
Oh, and to the haters, go f*ck yourselves (friendly gfys)
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guitarguru777
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Obviously you need to see them again and pay attention. Neither of them were crazy. It was all a test of Lukes patience. The point of it was to see if Luke was just as impatient and ornery as his father was. If he would have got frustrated and pissed off like Anakin did when he was told he could be on the counsel but not a "Jedi" they would have told him to go fuck himself, and not a friendly go fuck yourself.
You really need to go back and really pay attention to the underlying threads in the movie. The point of IV - VI was the Protagonist's maturing and going from Boy to man with the weight of the world on his shoulders. The point of I - III was .... well I - III didn't have ANY underlying message. If you say they do you really are insane.
I - III was just a way to build up to IV - VI that WHY there is really no substance. Everyone knew the story, Lucas just visualized it and added a bunch of BS to it to make it 3 films instead of 1. He could have just made it a single film and made it really good, but he decided it had to be a trilogy.
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No revelation yet but there's a reason behind it. The period between the two trilogies is a time of darkness and masks. Yoda is hidden and crazy, ben is hidden and crazy, anakin is hidden as a machine. It's like the emperor cast a spell and the only way the Jedi to survive was to fall into a self inflicted trance, something like that. We all take for granted that Yoda is pulling a fast one on Luke when he says "Yoda, you seek yoda!" in the the third person. But I ask you, and this is very important, what if Yoda really didn't didn't know who he was because he was in a trance?
Here's another: "Obi wan kenobi? That's a name I've not heard in a long time." Who else forgets their own names, least of all Jedi? No coincidence they both forget their names.
And you are probably like, "oh well who gives a shit?" But I urge you to think about this shit, because it is fucking deep. The more you think about it, the more it makes sense. I don't know what drugs Lucas was on, but his initial vision of this saga was so complex. All he's been doing since those first two movies is filling in the blanks... OK, I'm a total tool. Goddamn in my mid 30s preaching about kids movies while at work. Fucking shit I need to get laid.
Here's another: "Obi wan kenobi? That's a name I've not heard in a long time." Who else forgets their own names, least of all Jedi? No coincidence they both forget their names.
And you are probably like, "oh well who gives a shit?" But I urge you to think about this shit, because it is fucking deep. The more you think about it, the more it makes sense. I don't know what drugs Lucas was on, but his initial vision of this saga was so complex. All he's been doing since those first two movies is filling in the blanks... OK, I'm a total tool. Goddamn in my mid 30s preaching about kids movies while at work. Fucking shit I need to get laid.
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DUDE ... are you fucking serious?
A trance??? WTF where in all the is good and right in the world did you come up with that "brilliant" theory?
Obi Wan knew well and good exactly what they were talking about when Luke asked him. Obi Wan was in hiding and had to be sure that Luke and the Droids werent there on a mission for the Empire to try and kill him. THATS why he pretends to not be Obi Wan at first and plays it off as "Old Ben". Once he realizes Luke is sincere in his search for Obi Wan and that it was in fact Princess Leia that was looking for him, he reveals to Luke he is Obi Wan Kenobi.
As for Yoda ... see what I said above. Yoda knew Luke would be coming, Obi Wan told him to expect Luke. You think Obi Wan's Spirit being on Degobah in Empire was a coincidence? Hells no, the end of Revenge of the sith tells you that Yoda can already speak to those Jedi who have passed on. It only makes sense that Obi Wan was on Degobah to speak with Yoda of Luke, and that he was coming. Yoda then set up a series of tests for when Luke arrived to test his patience, and he happened to fail miserably. FUCK ...dude in the scene where Yoda tells Luke he is not ready to train Yoda even talks to Obi Wan, they have an entire conversation for christ sake! Obi Wan tells Yoda "Hes not much different then me at the same age" then Yoda agrees to train him.
You are clearly just making shit up cause you don't get it. You need to go see that shit again and pay attention.
DUDE ... are you fucking serious?
A trance??? WTF where in all the is good and right in the world did you come up with that "brilliant" theory?
Obi Wan knew well and good exactly what they were talking about when Luke asked him. Obi Wan was in hiding and had to be sure that Luke and the Droids werent there on a mission for the Empire to try and kill him. THATS why he pretends to not be Obi Wan at first and plays it off as "Old Ben". Once he realizes Luke is sincere in his search for Obi Wan and that it was in fact Princess Leia that was looking for him, he reveals to Luke he is Obi Wan Kenobi.
As for Yoda ... see what I said above. Yoda knew Luke would be coming, Obi Wan told him to expect Luke. You think Obi Wan's Spirit being on Degobah in Empire was a coincidence? Hells no, the end of Revenge of the sith tells you that Yoda can already speak to those Jedi who have passed on. It only makes sense that Obi Wan was on Degobah to speak with Yoda of Luke, and that he was coming. Yoda then set up a series of tests for when Luke arrived to test his patience, and he happened to fail miserably. FUCK ...dude in the scene where Yoda tells Luke he is not ready to train Yoda even talks to Obi Wan, they have an entire conversation for christ sake! Obi Wan tells Yoda "Hes not much different then me at the same age" then Yoda agrees to train him.
Quotes from The Empire Strikes Back:
You are clearly just making shit up cause you don't get it. You need to go see that shit again and pay attention.
EDIT: Oh and the series of time between the two movies is explained in "Shadows Of The Empire" and "The Rise Of The Sith" books and comics. Its not really a dark time at all. There are no major battles, there are no major plot twists. Its an unimportant period of time. Exactly like the 10 year period between Episodes I and II.
A trance??? WTF where in all the is good and right in the world did you come up with that "brilliant" theory?
Obi Wan knew well and good exactly what they were talking about when Luke asked him. Obi Wan was in hiding and had to be sure that Luke and the Droids werent there on a mission for the Empire to try and kill him. THATS why he pretends to not be Obi Wan at first and plays it off as "Old Ben". Once he realizes Luke is sincere in his search for Obi Wan and that it was in fact Princess Leia that was looking for him, he reveals to Luke he is Obi Wan Kenobi.
As for Yoda ... see what I said above. Yoda knew Luke would be coming, Obi Wan told him to expect Luke. You think Obi Wan's Spirit being on Degobah in Empire was a coincidence? Hells no, the end of Revenge of the sith tells you that Yoda can already speak to those Jedi who have passed on. It only makes sense that Obi Wan was on Degobah to speak with Yoda of Luke, and that he was coming. Yoda then set up a series of tests for when Luke arrived to test his patience, and he happened to fail miserably. FUCK ...dude in the scene where Yoda tells Luke he is not ready to train Yoda even talks to Obi Wan, they have an entire conversation for christ sake! Obi Wan tells Yoda "Hes not much different then me at the same age" then Yoda agrees to train him.
You are clearly just making shit up cause you don't get it. You need to go see that shit again and pay attention.
DUDE ... are you fucking serious?
A trance??? WTF where in all the is good and right in the world did you come up with that "brilliant" theory?
Obi Wan knew well and good exactly what they were talking about when Luke asked him. Obi Wan was in hiding and had to be sure that Luke and the Droids werent there on a mission for the Empire to try and kill him. THATS why he pretends to not be Obi Wan at first and plays it off as "Old Ben". Once he realizes Luke is sincere in his search for Obi Wan and that it was in fact Princess Leia that was looking for him, he reveals to Luke he is Obi Wan Kenobi.
As for Yoda ... see what I said above. Yoda knew Luke would be coming, Obi Wan told him to expect Luke. You think Obi Wan's Spirit being on Degobah in Empire was a coincidence? Hells no, the end of Revenge of the sith tells you that Yoda can already speak to those Jedi who have passed on. It only makes sense that Obi Wan was on Degobah to speak with Yoda of Luke, and that he was coming. Yoda then set up a series of tests for when Luke arrived to test his patience, and he happened to fail miserably. FUCK ...dude in the scene where Yoda tells Luke he is not ready to train Yoda even talks to Obi Wan, they have an entire conversation for christ sake! Obi Wan tells Yoda "Hes not much different then me at the same age" then Yoda agrees to train him.
Quotes from The Empire Strikes Back:
Obi Wan Kenobi said:
You are clearly just making shit up cause you don't get it. You need to go see that shit again and pay attention.
EDIT: Oh and the series of time between the two movies is explained in "Shadows Of The Empire" and "The Rise Of The Sith" books and comics. Its not really a dark time at all. There are no major battles, there are no major plot twists. Its an unimportant period of time. Exactly like the 10 year period between Episodes I and II.
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Guru nothing in the movies contradicts what I'm saying. And I'm not making up shit. I'm not some fucking emo teenager just trying to piss people off and start an argument online and draw attention. I'm not fucking around. I've thought about this shit probably more than 90% of Star Wars fans. I'm dead serious here. And I'm not upset at you because the idea sounded completely absurd to me at first. But it's the only one that fits in the puzzle.
Some major questions have not been answered -- why is he called "Old Ben"? Why is Owen so upset at Obi-wan? Andy why is Yoda all of a sudden this comedian in Empire Strikes Back? The only answer is that something unusual happened to them in between trilogies.
Some major questions have not been answered -- why is he called "Old Ben"? Why is Owen so upset at Obi-wan? Andy why is Yoda all of a sudden this comedian in Empire Strikes Back? The only answer is that something unusual happened to them in between trilogies.
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Dude .. first see what I said above: 24 seconds in, Obi Wan and Yoda speak to each other
Dude I am a UBER fucking Star Wars geek. I challenge anyone to challenge my knowledge of the Star Wars universe. Its impossible to stump me ...lol
He is called "Old Ben" cause thats what he goes by cause he is in hiding. When people ask him his name he tells them Ben. Hes in hiding dude ..lol You dont reveal your identity when you are in hiding.
Cause he knows Ben will take Luke on a "Damned Fool Crusade" and he needs Luke around the farm to help out, and he loves Luke like a son. He knows who Kenobi is and he never really liked him to begin with. He only took cause his wife convinced him to. Remember Owen is Anakins younger brother who brought their mother back from the sand people in Episode II ( Source http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Owen_Lars )
Hes not a comedian, how do you get hes a comedian? If you are referring to when Luke first meets him on Degohbah then you need to read what I wrote above again. It makes perfect sense the way I am explaining it ... TRUST ME. There aren't many people that know more about Star Wars on this planet then I do. I can actually give you parts and spec numbers for what it takes to build any of the fighters and ships in the Star Wars galaxy.
Dude I am a UBER fucking Star Wars geek. I challenge anyone to challenge my knowledge of the Star Wars universe. Its impossible to stump me ...lol
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AudioGeekZine
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fuck man. this is just you searching for a meaning when there is none.
Its at least 20 years between episodes 3 and 4. The Jedi aren't active, I wouldn't say they forgot their names. Ben is reclusive and keeps to himself mostly. Yoda is a billion years old and lived in the jungle for 20 years without anyone to talk to, he's understandably a little weird.
Reminds me of Catcher In The Rye or Scrotie McBooger Balls. Over analyzing.
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According to the Star Wars timeline its 18 to 19 years Before Episode Four that episode 3 ends.
19 BBY – Birth of the Empire (BBY - Before The Battle Of Yavin which is the big battle at the end of Episode 4 where Luke blows up the Death Star)
* Birth of the Galactic Empire[56]
* The Clone Wars end, Count Dooku is killed by Anakin Skywalker during the Battle of Coruscant and General Grievous is killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi on Utapau. Chancellor Palpatine, revealed to be the Sith Master Darth Sidious, kills Masters Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar and, with Anakin's help, Mace Windu.[56]
* Palpatine reorganizes the Galactic Republic into the Galactic Empire with himself as Emperor and Anakin Skywalker turns to the dark side of the Force and becomes Darth Vader, Palpatine's ruthless second-in-command and third apprentice.[56]
* The Great Jedi Purge is orchestrated by Sidious and Vader and almost all Jedi are hunted down and killed.[56]
* Dissolution of the Jedi Order[56]
* Darth Vader kills all the Separatist leaders on Mustafar,[56] then is defeated and severely wounded in a duel by Obi-Wan Kenobi.
* Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa are born to Padmé Amidala on Polis Massa. Padmé Amidala dies in childbirth. Obi-Wan Kenobi, who survives the Purge, leaves Luke with Anakin's step brother Owen Lars and Leia with Bail Organa, in order to protect them from Palpatine and their father.[56]
* Mon Mothma and Bail Organa along with other senators loyal to the Galactic Republic, discuss in secret plans for a Rebellion. This eventually leads to the Galactic Civil War.[57]
19 BBY – Birth of the Empire (BBY - Before The Battle Of Yavin which is the big battle at the end of Episode 4 where Luke blows up the Death Star)
* Birth of the Galactic Empire[56]
* The Clone Wars end, Count Dooku is killed by Anakin Skywalker during the Battle of Coruscant and General Grievous is killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi on Utapau. Chancellor Palpatine, revealed to be the Sith Master Darth Sidious, kills Masters Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar and, with Anakin's help, Mace Windu.[56]
* Palpatine reorganizes the Galactic Republic into the Galactic Empire with himself as Emperor and Anakin Skywalker turns to the dark side of the Force and becomes Darth Vader, Palpatine's ruthless second-in-command and third apprentice.[56]
* The Great Jedi Purge is orchestrated by Sidious and Vader and almost all Jedi are hunted down and killed.[56]
* Dissolution of the Jedi Order[56]
* Darth Vader kills all the Separatist leaders on Mustafar,[56] then is defeated and severely wounded in a duel by Obi-Wan Kenobi.
* Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa are born to Padmé Amidala on Polis Massa. Padmé Amidala dies in childbirth. Obi-Wan Kenobi, who survives the Purge, leaves Luke with Anakin's step brother Owen Lars and Leia with Bail Organa, in order to protect them from Palpatine and their father.[56]
* Mon Mothma and Bail Organa along with other senators loyal to the Galactic Republic, discuss in secret plans for a Rebellion. This eventually leads to the Galactic Civil War.[57]
