Best non Ozzy/Dio Black Sabbath album

[0Marty]

But it's not an appeal to popularity. The Dio and Ozzy eras are both more unique and well-crafted musically. Has nothing to do with popularity.

In the 70s and early 80s, Iommi set the trends. In the mid to late-80s, Iommi started to follow them.

I disagree here, last album where they weren't following the trends was Sabotage. Since then, they played what was "in". Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die were prog/rock influenced and Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules were following NWOBHM trends.

 

[SoundMaster]

they're all great, including Forbidden. But, due to the title track, Born Again takes this easily.

 

[Atomic Tide]

they're all great, including Forbidden. But, due to the title track, Born Again takes this easily.

My second fave track, after DtP

 

[Assault_Attack]

Any love for the live version of Black Sabbath w/ Gillan?

I think Ian sang all of the Ozzie Sabbath tracks great! I love his screams at the end of verses.

for some reason he had a hard time with the Dio tracks.

 

[Firehead]

Headless Cross is one of the best Metal albums ever, let alone just within the context of Sabbath. The back-to-back punch of 'When Death Calls' & 'Kill In The Spirit World' are epic masterpieces.

I get a lot of flack within the Hard Rock/Metal community for this opinion, but I really don't think Ian Gillian is much of a singer...so 'Born Again' doesn't count for much at all, in my book.

 

[The Ozzman]

Listened to some of Born Again last night and I wasn't impressed. I'll try again later.

 

[0Marty]

Not really the kind of album you gonna like (love) after first listen. Give it more time, it's really creepy - that's what I like about it.

 

[The Butt]

Born Again is musically some of Sabbaths best material. Gillan doesn't really fit though.