Best real amp + impulses clip?

[Ermz]

Hey guys,

I'm trying to prove the point that cabinet modeling has taken us a long way from the old algorithmic method.

What is the very best clip you know of to show off a real amp sound with modeled cab? Didn't CJWall do a crazy one with the fireball a while back?

Cheers!

 

[Rupturemetal]

I'd say the Bugera clip I heard or one of the many Engl 530 and IR on here. Seems like the engl just goes good with impulses

 

[Petrocker]

Ive using impulses with my 5150 for a while now, it gets better and better =)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=867006

 

[006]

Man, I just remembered I have an MP-1 laying around here that I could be experimenting with!! Due to some clips I heard on here a while back I really want a Peavey Rockmaster and an Engl e530. It seems like the best sounds have been with a dedicated guitar preamp unit, especially the Engl. As soon as PayPal stops being gay I will have a Krank Rev Jr. to experiment with. Then Recabinet 1.0 should be out in the next few weeks... it's an impulse party

~006

 

[16S]

Thats the way GubbKuk! This is a good thread if people post clips...cmon!

 

[JeffTD]

Best tones I've heard via impulses were S34911snm or whatever his name is, on those pop punk songs he produced!

 

[BLOODROOT]

Ive using impulses with my 5150 for a while now, it gets better and better =)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=867006

wow jesus christ. those sound damn good. makes me want to switch back from powerball/savage to 5150/xxx


sorry for the stupid question. Im sure ill get hate mail for asking but can someone explain how these work and get me started what i need to buy and legally download to get started using impulses.

 

[Torniojaws]

Well, personally I can get a much better sound with impulses (except for palm mutes, which still sound weak with impulses vs. real cab) than micing a real cab But my room isn't the greatest for guitar recording

 

[Metaltastic]

sorry for the stupid question. Im sure ill get hate mail for asking but can someone explain how these work and get me started what i need to buy and legally download to get started using impulses.

Search for "Impulse FAQ" in the production tips subforum, MAYBE SOMEDAY BRETT WILL STICKY IT!!!!!!!

 

[Soundlurker]

Here's a short clip I made that sounds nice, IMO.
click

 

[Metaltastic]

Short but sweet dude, I like it! Is that your Garland? (you're the one with the Garland, right?)

 

[GuitarHack]

Ermin

It might not be the best tone, but if you are interested in how close an Impulsed tone can sound to a Mic'd tone here is a comparison of Mic'd cab versus Impulse I did the other day. I recorded the Mic'd clip and Preamp signal at the same time, made an impulse out of it and applied the Impulse to the Preamp signal. There is a difference but I am curious if most people could pick out of say 20 samples which was Mic'd and which was Impulsed correctly for more than 50% of the samples? Here is a one sample blind test, maybe easy to guess with only a single sample but in a bunch of 20 samples, it would be interesting I think.

http://www.esnips.com/doc/ec892058-cc65-41ca-8359-1849529e77b7/2

http://www.esnips.com/doc/f4903b6b-2997-4a06-bc19-c101238e5413/1

So which is Mic'd and which is Impulsed?

In both clips the Guitars are absolutely RAW, no EQ, HP/LP, etc...


Ermin if it is not OK for me to post these particular samples let me know and I will remove them.

 

[Metaltastic]

I vote #2 as the real one definitely, it sounds more defined in the palm mutes, but still, if I didn't have them right next to each other to directly A/B, I don't think I'd be able to tell!

 

[LydonB]

second link is real. Sounds more ballsy.

 

[Nebulous]

Very close! I can't make my mind up on those. Just when I think there is a difference, I lose it and can't decide.

My ears at the moment aren't the best to make that call atm (post gig threshold shift), which I guess proves a point of someone with "average ears" not being able to tell the difference.

 

[Metaltastic]

Hmm, not sure if I'd agree that "average" equates to "recovering from aural assault," Dan

 

[drew_drummer]

Has anyone experimented with using duvets, and covering their cabs when they mic them, to get a completely dead sound???

 

[alan1990]

wow... that just sold me on impulses. the only way you would be able to tell that one isnt a mic is if you told them that one isnt.....

you also have to remember that 99% of the people listening to music have no idea or just don't care as long as it sounds good.

 

[DFGeneer]

Yes, thats easy. Definitely 2 is the real one.

 

[Ermz]

You're more than welcome to use that clip.

I'd go with #2 as being real also. #1 has that 'stuck mid-flange' sound to me, which all impulses do (man, will I bite it if I'm wrong). Unfortunately they never move with the tone, hence my constant advocacy of Nebula 3 when trying new samples. I was actually going to ask you, GH, whether you'd want to try doing some impulses using their NAT3 modeler? The tone between the real and impulse'd clip vary a significant bit. Either the volumes aren't quite matched, or some tone appears to be getting lost in the process.

Thank you all for the posts.