BajenPatte, for the record, I did not interpret your question as a slam against Biff or Saxon. Your second post should clarify to everyone where your coming from. However, your post and some of the responses provided a great opportunity for me to sound off about those who believe metal/hard rock is only meant for people in a certain age group. That seems to be a problem here in the states. To me, it's obvious by the state of the heavy music scene here that the younger "metal" fans haven't clue one what real/true heavy metal is or sounds like. Take care and keep rockin in Sweden. Oh yeh, God bless Hammerfall!