Black Sabbath: New Album (Rick Rubin)
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Manicompression
doing it for the kids
I appreciate that this has that classic Sabbath riffing and feel, even though I agree its a little long winded. Geezer is the man, THAT BASS
prostetnic
Jeff's DI's AGAIN?!
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DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
I have no words for this. I just feel like screaming out "Madness?? This is Sabbath!!!" in the best Gerard Butler voice possible.
Guys. New Sabbath. I haven't been this pumped for an album since... well, since Sabbath.
Guys. New Sabbath. I haven't been this pumped for an album since... well, since Sabbath.
smy1
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And people are saying Slayer & Metallica are washed up?!!? If that song was written/recorded/produced by a demo band people would laugh into their faces!
Great vocals. Interesting that they use this is the first single, it's a bit dirgy but hey well they invented doom...very organic, seems like they didnt do much editing to the guitars. I can hear some slight differences between them in spots, which is cool. I cant expect sabbath to sound like a Fear Factory record. 
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
The song sucks and the lyrics indicate a complete and total misunderstanding of Nietzsche's writings. What idiots approved this?
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
Why am I not in the slightest surprised with Sammy and Jeff's comments? You guys might as well write "you know what I think" and save time hahaha
I love it and couldn't give a crap about anything else. Ozzy has never been a lyric god, that's for sure, Dio absolutely crushed him in that department (and pretty much everything else).
I love it and couldn't give a crap about anything else. Ozzy has never been a lyric god, that's for sure, Dio absolutely crushed him in that department (and pretty much everything else).
He's Dead, Jim
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I, too, was appalled at the lyrics, given Mr. Osbourne's PhD in epistemological philosophy from Oxford.
DanLights
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JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
It has literally nothing to do with epistemology and a rudimentary reading of the first chapter of Thus Spake Zarathustra would've cleared things up. I'm not saying everyone needs to be an expert on Nietzsche, but to base lyrics off something he said without doing any research on it is just fucking stupid.
smy1
Member
Hahahah!
I'll do that from now on! Of course everyone is entitled to like what they like, but man, was I let down by this Sabbath track ...
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
Dude, don't take it so literally, he just used a cool name to say what I said: Ozzy's dumb. He could've said neurosurgery and it wouldn't have made a difference. Fuck the lyrics, the song is Sabbath 100% IMO, Iommi and Butler.
Hahahah!
Of course everyone is entitled to like what they like, but man, was I let down by this Sabbath track ...
Of course, it's just your opinion, but honestly, I've heard it a second time and I still can't find how any Sabbath fan can dislike this song. It sounds like Sabbath to me, the riffs are so Sabbath I could recognize it instantly. If this was a song from a "demo band" I'd be like "sounds pretty cool, but a bit of an Iommi rip off".
Now, saying that if this were put out by a demo band it would go unnoticed is something I've always found silly. If it was an album released by an unknown band, it would probably go unnoticed because no one would hear it, not because it's good or bad, but because it wouldn't reach a small fraction of the amount of people Sabbath could reach.
Seriously though, I'm trying my best not to be a blind fanboy, but, how is that song not like classical Sabbath? THE RIFFZZZ DUDEZZZ.
smy1
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I've never been a fan of classical Sabbath, mainly because it all sounds so crappy even if the riffs are good (like almost every band from that period). That's why I am so disappointed. It sounds like they got stuck in 1970 and didn't know how to make it sound 2013. And by that I don't mean subdrops, synths, breakdowns and pigsqueals, just a less retro affair.
If oldschool Sabbath fans like this, I can understand it. I still think it's lazy and boring. The "demo band" comment pertains to this. You got Rick Rubin and an endless budget and this is what comes out?
Now if they reduced that song down to 4:00 minutes, then we could talk again ...
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
I've never been a fan of classical Sabbath, mainly because it all sounds so crappy even if the riffs are good (like almost every band from that period). That's why I am so disappointed. It sounds like they got stuck in 1970 and didn't know how to make it sound 2013. And by that I don't mean subdrops, synths, breakdowns and pigsqueals, just a less retro affair.
If oldschool Sabbath fans like this, I can understand it. I still think it's lazy and boring. The "demo band" comment pertains to this. You got Rick Rubin and an endless budget and this is what comes out?
Now if they reduced that song down to 4:00 minutes, then we could talk again ...
oh well in that case it's entirely your opinion, but you realize that makes your comment completely irrelevant? You say they're "washed out" but complain that they sound like they're stuck in 1970?? That's entirely the point, this is classic Black Sabbath, they made it, unlike Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer etc. who can't make an album sound like in their prime. I'm not complaining about those bands at all, I enjoy most new releases by Megadeth and some others, I'm not a "I only like the first three albums" purist at all, but you can't compare those bands to this Sabbath album. There hasn't been a Sabbath album with Ozzy since 1979, and this song sounds like it was 3 years ago since they released Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (when it's really 40!!), what did you expect? Classic bands release a new, different, more "modern" album and people complain cause they're not "them" anymore, but another band releases an album that actually sounds like the classic ones, and people complain they're "stuck in the past". Old bands keep touring without releasing any new albums and they "are past their time, they need to get over it and retire", others release new albums and "they should just keep touring with their old material and stop putting out new music". There's always a hater for every thing bands do. No offense to you at all Sammy, it's fine if you find the song boring or lazy or whatever, I just needed to vent.
But yeah, if you've never really been a Sabbath fan (nothing wrong with that either, nobody's perfect you know haha) you definitely won't like this one, but I'd be surprised at any actual fans not liking this song, it's so Iommi it hurts.
And to understand Jeff's opinion, it's easy: Was it produced by Sneap? No? Is it from a band that's been active since before 1990? Not produced by Sneap, you say? It sucks.
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
What?? You literally don't read any of my posts if you think this is true. The 1990 comment may be accurate since I just don't actively listen to much older shit (not to say I don't love Queen/Priest/WHAM!), but I have been publicly swinging all over the nuts of David Bendeth, Steve Evetts, Will Putney, and Sam Pura among others for a while now.
superfreak
Sajid 'Sarj' Masood
Wow, I wasn't expecting this... the song kicks ass! Ozzy sounds fucking awesome! I love the vibe and the natural feel of it, not being edited and polished to death like Ozzy's solo albums.
Although I don't agree with the mix, I can understand why they went with it. The drums could have been A LOT better though.
Although I don't agree with the mix, I can understand why they went with it. The drums could have been A LOT better though.
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