Blind Guardian - Battalions of Fear

[lizard]

I guess he had some sort of falling out with Wojtek cause Wojie wouldn't let him do any of the writing. Wasn't it the case that first Wojtek was leaving, and then came back when Heiman left??

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

Yea Wotjek left for like a year or something, then he came back and everything fell apart with Daniel and the other guitarist quitting. Im not entirely sure what happened but its apparent that Wotjek and Daniel were not able to work together anymore for whatever personal/buisness reasons.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

is it just me or is helloween a fucking terrible band

i mean maybe walls of jericho and keeper pt. 1 is cool but i heard "dark ride" a while ago, supposedly one of their better "new" albums and it just fucking blew to no end

it's just you

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

Heiman is the best singer in metal me thinks.

and a flame to the ground beneath is a fucking perfect album. PERFECT!

 

[Mormagil]

no it sucks

 

[EVERLOSTINDEADETERNITY]

Savage Circus new album kicks ass too. Anyway How can anyone say Pure and Highlander suck??? Pure has got to be one of the greatest power metal songs ever.

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

Pure is the best song on the CD, and possibly one of the best opener songs on an album.

 

[JayKeeley]

Good thread.

Somewhere Far Beyond is excellent. In reading through this thread again, I'd say mid-era BG is currently ruling my airwaves. SFB and Tales. You can see where they were naturally evolving, taking several years off before releasing Imaginations.

Great band when you think about it: from across their discography, they appeal to fans of speed metal through prog metal. Plus they've got the whole fantasy /Tolkien thing going on so there's elements of folk/celtic/whatchamacallit.

 

[Doom]

This album fucking rocks. Their best IMO. Don't like much past their first two.

 

[spaffe]

This album fucking rocks. Their best IMO. Don't like much past their first two.

Seconded. I've been spinning that one and Follow the Blind a whole lot lately, and I have to say that I prefer the former. It feels so earnest and full of energy, and perhaps the production is a bit sharper too

All though I think that all of their albums up to A Night atO have a lot to offer, even though I usually prefer more extreme metal

 

[spaffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90rIRwqUVLA


Cries!
Cries in a dark land
Hear the voice it's cold as ice
Eyes!
They are watching
They look for me but cannot find

 

[JayKeeley]

What is it with this retro-cool-to-be-into-speed-metal again. Twelve months ago, 90% of UM would have said anything with clean vocals a la Blind Guardian etc would be "gay". Sounds like mass oompadom to me. Though I suppose once you've exhausted 5 billion black death growly albums, eventually you have to go back to basics. It wasn't long ago when it was all just heavy metal.

 

[skeptik]

I think it's because I came here tbh. Actually I don't even know how long I've been posting here by now.

 

[Crimson Velvet]

There have been those of us with consistent tastes since the day we signed up, you know!

 

[EricT]

What is it with this retro-cool-to-be-into-speed-metal again. Twelve months ago, 90% of UM would have said anything with clean vocals a la Blind Guardian etc would be "gay". Sounds like mass oompadom to me. Though I suppose once you've exhausted 5 billion black death growly albums, eventually you have to go back to basics. It wasn't long ago when it was all just heavy metal.

The retro thrash movement of the past 2 years also seems to be spawning the bringing back speed metal. Hopefully, we don't get an onslaught of god awful retro speed metal bands as we are getting with the retro thrash.

Next in line: 80's Power Metal suddenly makes a comeback and 150 Sanctuary and Lethal cover bands pop up out of the wood work.

 

[skeptik]

Some of those bands are actually good you know.

 

[EricT]

I absolutely love Sanctuary, and have a liking for Lethal. I was just taking a piss take at the amount of tankard worship bands there are in this retro thrash movement.

Refer to my prior rants in other threads on the subject of Thrash Till Death kiddies.

 

[Demilich]

Tankard deserves to be worshiped at least a little though!

 

[JayKeeley]

The retro thrash movement of the past 2 years also seems to be spawning the bringing back speed metal. Hopefully, we don't get an onslaught of god awful retro speed metal bands as we are getting with the retro thrash.

Next in line: 80's Power Metal suddenly makes a comeback and 150 Sanctuary and Lethal cover bands pop up out of the wood work.

good post

It's difficult to explain but even if you're only hearing "original" speed (or any other classic genre) for the first time today, it always tends to sound more....genuine.

Remember that scene in The Fly remake when Jeff Goldblum attempts to clone a piece of steak. When he eats the clone steak, he describes it as tasting "synthetic". That analogy applies here*



* but of course there's always a few exceptions

also, conversely, just because it's old doesn't necessarily make it good either

 

[JayKeeley]

Also, what is it with retro-movements? Generally speaking, are these creating genuine renewed interest or are we talking about passing bandwagon appeal?

Doesn't everyone else find it odd that it took so long for the masses to come round or take notice considering these genres (thrash, speed, etc) were around well before all that 90's derivative stuff post 2nd wave BM. Are people making their way backwards through metal history or something?

What's the word on the street?