Bob Rocks With Vox: Micing Tips

[Nitronium Blood]

I'm assuming most of you have seen this.

For those that have not:

Bob Rock's Micing technique.

http://www.voxamps.co.uk/artists/Bob_Rocks_Micin_Tips.asp

I was completely unaware of the whole 'micing the back of the cabinet' technique.

 

[JeffTD]

IIRC, Images and Words was 2 SM57's in front and 1 in the back.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I read an article where a cheap boundry mic was placed in the bottom of a open back fender amp (right under one of the 12").

No idea if it sounded good cause I didn't bother to go listen.

 

[Sloan]

ha!
i saw that same guitar in a humble pie video last night. funny.

 

[Nitronium Blood]

I wonder if Andy has ever tried this technique.

Or Glenn Fricker?

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

IIRC, Images and Words was 2 SM57's in front and 1 in the back.

Wasn't that "Awake" ?

 

[JeffTD]

Wasn't that "Awake" ?

Ahh yes, I can never remember which used which gear. Thanks for the correction,

 

[Glenn Fricker]

I wonder if Andy has ever tried this technique.

Or Glenn Fricker?

Nope, not yet. I just learned to get my cabinet out of the corner!!!

 

[LSD-Studio]

Nope, not yet. I just learned to get my cabinet out of the corner!!!

Hehe, I can'T my iso-booth is one corner (like 1x1.5 meters or so)...
that'S what I hate about my recordings, In alwways have to make some serious cuts in the 250 Hz area, due to those boomy recording-circumstances....
strill not enough low-end though, I think it's either the poweramp (but the 295 should have enough headroom to transport deep freqs) or another disadvantage of that small room (cancellation etc).
Might give that rear-cab micing a try, but I guess that will increase my low-mid-mud problems...just cant imagine it sounding clear and tight .....hm, we'll see.

I know and use the rear-mic often for open-back combos and that's a pretty common technique, but never thought about using it on closed-back cabs....

 

[Kellan]

I read an article where a cheap boundry mic was placed in the bottom of a open back fender amp (right under one of the 12").

No idea if it sounded good cause I didn't bother to go listen.

This is typically how I mic my amp if I'm recording. I have a Fender DeVille 4x10 combo. Sounds great this way, as this amp is too damn bright and has too much treble when distorted with anything but the useless onboard distortion. I don't even really consider micing the front of the cabinet. Not enough bass and too much treble. Micing the back just sounds worlds better.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

This is typically how I mic my amp if I'm recording. I have a Fender DeVille 4x10 combo. Sounds great this way, as this amp is too damn bright and has too much treble when distorted with anything but the useless onboard distortion. I don't even really consider micing the front of the cabinet. Not enough bass and too much treble. Micing the back just sounds worlds better.

can you post a clip?

 

[Kellan]

can you post a clip?

Unfortunately, no. I no longer have access to the studio I once did, and I don't have any of the sound files. Not that it was much, but definitely better than nothing.
All I can say is basically, it does the filtering of the ~12k treble frequency cut that I usually have to do, for me, while tightening up the bottom end and midrange a little more as well. If you have an open back cabinet, try it and see how it sounds.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Cool will do sometime. I think I got a combo amp I could try it on, don't have a boundry mic though

 

[Nitronium Blood]

Nope, not yet. I just learned to get my cabinet out of the corner!!!

Please explain?

 

[abyssofdreams]

Did somebody try it out yet?

 

[Phase]

IIRC, Images and Words was 2 SM57's in front and 1 in the back.

I think he has always used a 57 and 421 at 90 degrees but later on mic'd up a bunch of different cabs to blend together.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Yeah, just checked the sound clips he posted (for some reason I didn't when this was first posted) on the vox site.

Does anyone else think it sounds muddy?

 

[Gustavo_Loureiro]

Yeah, just checked the sound clips he posted (for some reason I didn't when this was first posted) on the vox site.

Does anyone else think it sounds muddy?

Yeah, prefered the 'normal' setting

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I mean common thats what the bass is for!

 

[Unavailable]

Ick, those sound clips turned me off from the technique he was supposedly hyping up.