Brad Delp dead at 55

It doesn't make me feel worse that it was suicide. At least he checked out when he wanted to...more than I can say for most. If you don't have a Christian belief system where suicide automatically signs you up for eternal damnation, then why not check out when you want to?

DISCLAIMER: Anyone considering suicide should avoid any hasty decisions on this matter. Ending your life is an enormous life decision, third in fact, only behind marriage and choosing a new air conditioner.
 
If you don't have a Christian belief system where suicide automatically signs you up for eternal damnation, then why not check out when you want to?

Sure, if you only care about yourself. And as you've paid for an entire box of shotgun ammo, why not take your family and neighbors with you as well? After all, it won't matter as there's no afterlife. :rolleyes:

Suicide is nearly always a selfish decision (Ripley in Alien 3 is the exception) and it does indeed matter to people around you whether you do it or not. I'm not saying Brad Delp here or any other suicider didn't have their reasons (which from their pov were very reasonable even) but it was still a selfish decision.
 
You say that as if making a selfish is wrong by definition.

No, I'm not one to say what's universally wrong or right. But by killing yourself you're being a complete asshole towards everyone else but yourself and that's not cool in my books.

edit: I'm not intending to piss on Brad Delp's or anyone else's grave here, btw, may he RIP in any case
 
So you would rather have a loved one suffer thru the rest of his life than be at peace? Now that's selfish!

I'd rather get him over those problems actually. It's hard to imagine a problem where the only solution is death as you're suggesting, especially as this looks to be a complete surprise to his family and bandmates (wasn't he supposed to get married next summer?). Just not a very sensitive way to handle one's issues IMO...
 
Great post!

Welcome to UMOS. :headbang:

I second that. Boston was a HUGE influence to me. In fact....... people often complain to me about how crucial I am about production and tone etc. They claim it is because I have a "musician's ear." I have a "Boston ear" would be more the truth. My first guitar here was Shultz and that fact made me a stickler for production as well.
Having said all of that, Boston would have never acheived fame had it not been for the powerful and melodic voice of Brad Delp. When I think of the "golden throats" of classic rock, I first think of Steve Perry, then of Brad. His voice was incredible.


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I'd rather get him over those problems actually. It's hard to imagine a problem where the only solution is death as you're suggesting, especially as this looks to be a complete surprise to his family and bandmates (wasn't he supposed to get married next summer?). Just not a very sensitive way to handle one's issues IMO...
Some people are unable to "get over their problems". Some people are haunted by whatever demons they have inside. If you can't imagine it, than you've probably never been there and can't possibly understand.

None of my comments are directed in any way, shape or form to Brad Delp as I don't know his personal situation. I'm just saying, suicide doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.
 
Some people are unable to "get over their problems". Some people are haunted by whatever demons they have inside. If you can't imagine it, than you've probably never been there and can't possibly understand.

None of my comments are directed in any way, shape or form to Brad Delp as I don't know his personal situation. I'm just saying, suicide doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.

I totally disagree with this statement because Suicide is never the solution whatsoever except maybe in the case of painful terminal illness such as cancer... most of you know my recent situation and trust me not a day has gone by that i didn't think of doing such a thing as Brad did... but I know that is not the solution and won't help matters any better other then to bring hurt to my own family and friends... Brad should of found another solution such as intense therapy etc. Millions of other depressed people in the country have decided on that solution and not suicide & have come out of their dilemma... though I want to be with Tess right now in heaven and not be a minute more without her I know that is not the solution and she would of wanted me to go on living a long life and that someday we will be reunited in the afterlife in a natural way.... that should be the only Solution...
 
That's great that you are able to face up to your demons, and stand them down, UM. More power to you. But some people aren't able to overcome them, and never will.

Then everyone who can't find solutions to their problems or depression should just kill themselves and damn what anyone else in their lives think or feel or how it might affect them like perhaps it could drive a loved one who can't deal with your suicide to also kill themselves? ... I lost Tess to cancer but I realized that suicide is not the solution regardless... Tess didn't die by suicide but trust me it has affected me nonetheless her death... to the ones who do pass from this earth in natural ways such as cancer death is only the beginning...
 
Some people are unable to "get over their problems". Some people are haunted by whatever demons they have inside. If you can't imagine it, than you've probably never been there and can't possibly understand.

None of my comments are directed in any way, shape or form to Brad Delp as I don't know his personal situation. I'm just saying, suicide doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.
Agreed.
Nobody knows what the guy had to go through, nobody knows what they would have done in his place, nobody here knows its life and inner demons. Nobody. His suicide doesn't mean he's a "puss" or anything, we don't know the truth (and its many faces) so we could at least respect him.

It can be both a selfish and yet logical thing depending on your personal values and how you see the problem. Thus, I won't judge his decision, I've got my opinion on suicide but I don't pretend that it should be applied to everybody.

My 2 cents.

RIP Brad.
 
Then everyone who can't find solutions to their problems or depression should just kill themselves and damn what anyone else in their lives think or feel or how it might affect them like perhaps it could drive a loved one who can't deal with your suicide to also kill themselves? ... I lost Tess to cancer but I realized that suicide is not the solution regardless... Tess didn't die by suicide but trust me it has affected me nonetheless her death... to the ones who do pass from this earth in natural ways such as cancer death is only the beginning...
I'm choosing not to debate this with you further, UM. Because I can completely understand your point of view. You're just coming out of one of the most tragic events a man can go through. I'm sure you've just spend the last 6 months convincing yourself that suicide WAS NOT the way to go. So it's no surprise that you stand so firmly against.

And I admire your fortitude, and have sympathy for your situation. I don't want to make it worse by drudging up those emotions again, for debate on a message board. I'd rather have you concentrating on your on-going recovery and keep happy thoughts.
 
My penny on the matter.

I do support suicide and assisted suicide as well as euthanasia. I consider is ANYONE'S right to take your own live (as long as you don't endanger anyone else).

Since self-preservation is the most intense instict in any living being, suicide is therefore (in my book) an act of high bravery to overcome the most intense instinct. It's not cowardice, not puss, no nothing. A very big (and final) decision like TSO said.

NP: David Gilmour - 'Take A Breath'
 
I'm choosing not to debate this with you further, UM. Because I can completely understand your point of view. You're just coming out of one of the most tragic events a man can go through. I'm sure you've just spend the last 6 months convincing yourself that suicide WAS NOT the way to go. So it's no surprise that you stand so firmly against.

And I admire your fortitude, and have sympathy for your situation. I don't want to make it worse by drudging up those emotions again, for debate on a message board. I'd rather have you concentrating on your on-going recovery and keep happy thoughts.


ty... btw i like Robert Frost and since she loved poetry and wrote her own poetry I bought her a book on Robert Frost poetry... I think his whole collection in one book but i do not remember... her family now has the book... but great poet... probably my favorite.. her's was Rumi and Khalil Gibran among others... :cry: