Camel - Never Let Go = Opeth - Benighted

[solkar_saruman]

Yesterday I downloaded some Camel albums (holy Dalnet) and
listening this song, "Never Let Go" from the album called "Camel",
I realized that the begining reminds me some Opeth song.

I don't know wich one

I could be wrong, it could be a personal impression...
so I ask you to get that song and give me your opinion.

 

[inaeturnum]

some of the opeth songs are so influenced by camel.just listen camel`s snow goose-intro..and record by record there is many similar parts..it`s not bad thing at all..influence man..influence

 

[solkar_saruman]

Yes I know that generally Opeth is influenced by Camel, but Akerfeld just copied the intro from that Camel song and put it on Benighted. I like it everyway.

Before listening to Camel, I read about their influence. I though how a 70's rock band could influence Opeth but afterwards I think that is really, really clear influenced.

 

[Dreadfallen]

Hey, when Still Life was released, I e-mailed Mike and he told something like that Benighted is almost Never Let Go and he knows it!

 

[solkar_saruman]

Of course he knows, I think it may be some kind of tribute to them.

Talking about 70's band, does anyone know anything about the Black Water Park Band?

 

[opeth9999]

Yeah, what inaeturnum is right the intro for The Snow Goose sounds a lot like the begginning in The Moor. And the part also in the Moor where Mikael's singing with the guitar medley. Camel does that a lot also. I have the song Never Let Go on MP3 and yes you can tell the influence. I really want Camel self-titled badly I only have Moonmadness, The Snow Goose and Mirage right now. By the way inaeternum what is you favorite In Aeternum Album??? I only have the The Pestial Plague (I think that's how you spell it) but I just wanted to know because I have not yeard anything about them for a long time.

 

[Demonspell]

Yeah, at first I thought Camel and Opeth were about as opposite as you could get, but you can definitely hear the influence. I bet Lady Fantasy and Nimrodel/White Rider are two of Mikael's favorite songs of all time.

 

[Thorns of Sorrow]

I dled those two somgs, Demonspell, and Im loving it! Any otehr Camel reccomendation? Im really digging this.

 

[inaeturnum]

opeth9999: now you got me wrong
this title of mine doesn`t mean that band..it`s the meaning of this latin word:in aeturnum...it means:to forever.. i think there is some black and trash metal bands under this title...actually i thought this is good name for my orchestra too but then i noticed that someone already got it..so..that`s it. by the way..which band you meant?

 

[Board]

Hey Opeth9999, I don't think "Camel" is that hard to find. I bought it at a record fair for 30 Kroner which is a little under 4 dollars. An average secondhand store here in Denmark charges 20 Kroner for a record (aprox. $2.50), so it's not that much. I also paid 30 Kroner for "Mirage" and 20 Kroner for "The snow goose".
I must admit that I don't see that much similarities between Opeth and Camel! I haven't got "Still life" yet, so I can't say if they just copied "Never let go", but if they did that would be crappy! I think influence and copying is two different things. You can hear that Type O Negative is influenced by Black Sabbath, but it's not like they just rip off Black Sabbath's riffs and write themselves as the songwriters. A lot of people do that nowadays, but they don't even wanna play the music themselves, they just tape over the record (sampling), which is even worse in my opinion! I think it's much better (and more talented and original) to come up with your own ideas and riffs instead of just copying some other guys record!

 

[Don Corleone]

the two tracks are very alike - but not the same. it is definitely not stolen, but the influence is obvious.

the same case with anathema's "a dying wish" and moonspell's "alma mater"...two amazing tracks.

 

[D Mullholand]

announcement: the 1,000,000th Opeth fan who gets the "Never Let Go" = "Benighted" connection, gets a free vacuum cleaner from Microsoft! :zombie:
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Originally posted by Thorns of Sorrow
I dled those two somgs, Demonspell, and Im loving it! Any otehr Camel reccomendation? Im really digging this.

the first four albums are all very, very extraordinary. here are their names:

"Camel"
"Mirage"
"The Snow Goose"
"Moonmadness"

you can find the tracklists and all info on allmusic.com, just don't read their reviews!

oh, and their 1999 album "Rajaz" is a nice one, but more moody, slow and melancholic.

 

[Alucard]

Quick question for all you Camel fans... The only Camel album I have is Mirage, and I really, really, really like it. It rules. So anyway, what album shoud I get next?

 

[Demonspell]

I'd recommend Moonmadness, which captures the full range of the original lineup's talent.

 

[Stultus]

Has anyone here heard Stationary Traveller? I myself have only heard the title track which is amazing, and long goodbyes, which I must say I despise. How is the album overall?

 

[D Mullholand]

ignore Stationary Traveller and just about everything after Rain Dances.

the 80's were a dreadful time for rock music... if i were born in the 70's, i would've probably put myself into anabiosis around '79 for ten years. bleh. :zombie: