Can someone explain me something about multisample

[Carlxapm]

I often see people saying: Sneap usually puts 4 snares sample, staub puts 7 samples blblabla

What is that? is it, for example, 4 different snare tracks or it is 4 drumagog(for instense) plug in for one snare track.

im confused

thanks

carl

 

[cloy26]

4 different tracks of a snare with a different snare sample on each track. Maybe one sample eq'd for punch, another on another snare track for snap, and another for low end.

Doing it this way produces a much fuller sound and a sound more tailored to the tone you are wanting to go for in a mix.

 

[joeymusicguy]

for the record

layering drum sounds for tone is weird to me

but layering drum sounds for impact / fx / or emphasis is awesome

 

[cloy26]

well, I'm a n00b and used "tone" loosely.

If I layer, I use one for click, one for punch. I don't really mix the actual sound of the drum. Is that what you were referring to?

 

[Pedro Teixeira]

I actually love blending samples for tone if done right, creating different tones. But yeah, if you have more than one instances of drumagog in a track it will hold you back in terms of processing each individual snare, so if you want to do it, do it in different tracks.

 

[SkybluestudiosBEN]

Multi Sample could also mean that there is one snare that is sampled multiple times for a more real effect. It depends how the word is bein used.

 

[BLUElightCory]

for the record

layering drum sounds for tone is weird to me

but layering drum sounds for impact / fx / or emphasis is awesome

Agreed. I've tried multiple times to use the "stack multiple samples" method to experiment with building drum sounds, but it never sounds right to me. I always come back to just sampling the actual snare and blending that under the original snare.

 

[muckypup1]

I like layering different samples, like for my newest song i'm working on, I mixed the Sneap snare samples, some Morgan C samples, one of Ryan's samples and a L.O.G. sample I found on here. Sometimes it works, sometimes it sounds like shit. It works best for heavier music I think, but for extreme black metal, I don't think it goes very well as black metal should be rough as fuck

EDIT - here the song is where I used that mix of samples - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3163522/Inhalation Of Bile - Mix 5.mp3

 

[gabriel g.]

Multi-samples = same snare different hits
Layering different snares = well layering different snares under each other, to give the main source something thats missing

 

[Morgan C]

I love blending shit, I do it all the time. Never for toms, very often for snares/kicks, always if I'm using Slate.

I can't remember the last time I used a single snare sound..

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/FearedTwo.mp3 = 3 snares, 2 kicks
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/AHD13JanFINAL.mp3 = God knows how many snares, I lost count. 5 or so? With extra Z4's from slate, and extra room/OH from my own. 3 kicks.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/OlaLong13.mp3 = 2 snares, 2 kicks
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/LostElementX30.mp3 = 4 snares? lol..

Looking through my Dropbox the only time I can remember only using one snare/kick is when I kept my real drums totally natural.

 

[Nuno Filipe]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/AHD13JanFINAL.mp3 = God knows how many snares, I lost count. 5 or so? With extra Z4's from slate, and extra

:zombie: I already have heard similar samples like the one you use on that mix. It´s not hard to reach that sound with just only one sample.

 

[plague_rider]

More samples of a very similar velocity means that it won't sound robotic during a snare roll or anything, i like to use 5+ samples if they all ballpark the same velocity and mix it about 50/50 with the original sound if original isnt a great sounding snare

 

[Morgan C]

:zombie: I already have heard similar samples like the one you use on that mix. It´s not hard to reach that sound with just only one sample.

There's actually a lot more depth to that snare than you can hear easil thru the mix. There's a fair amount of ring, and an awesome air to it that you just can't achieve with a single sample, imo.

 

[Nuno Filipe]

There's actually a lot more depth to that snare than you can hear easil thru the mix. There's a fair amount of ring, and an awesome air to it that you just can't achieve with a single sample, imo.

You are probably right. But I dont say the same sound but similar. Of course this depends also on the snare samples that you have. But there are single samples that sounds really, really good.

 

[Carlxapm]

Ok, so basically, when the tracking is done, I guess for the snare, you copy/paste some snare track, then you EQ one of them in a different tone to give a much fuller sound. But you can as well do the same technique but insted of EQ'ing each individual snare, you could put different sample and play with the velocity of each.

Oh and by the way, i might have misguided some of you by saying MULTISAMPLE. sorry

 

[Harry Hughes]

I never use single samples anymore for snares.
Kicks, I'm still figuring out exactly what extra samples should be doing. Like for example, does one sample just do sub bass, while another is based entirely on attack? I have no fudging idea

 

[Metaltastic]

Czech it Harold

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/production-tips/556843-tips-blendin-kickz-plz.html

 

[GarethSE]

I never use single samples anymore for snares.
Kicks, I'm still figuring out exactly what extra samples should be doing. Like for example, does one sample just do sub bass, while another is based entirely on attack? I have no fudging idea

i usually just layer up a bunch of kicks until it sounds nice then high-pass to keep the subs in control.

 

[kaamosprod]

I love blending shit, I do it all the time. Never for toms, very often for snares/kicks, always if I'm using Slate.

I can't remember the last time I used a single snare sound..

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/FearedTwo.mp3 = 3 snares, 2 kicks
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/AHD13JanFINAL.mp3 = God knows how many snares, I lost count. 5 or so? With extra Z4's from slate, and extra room/OH from my own. 3 kicks.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/OlaLong13.mp3 = 2 snares, 2 kicks
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/324723/LostElementX30.mp3 = 4 snares? lol..

Looking through my Dropbox the only time I can remember only using one snare/kick is when I kept my real drums totally natural.

Morgan,

Do you mean for example of the first link, you use 3 snares samples in 3 snare tracks (so one sample per snare track) or you use 3 snares samples in one single snare track ??

it's difficult to understand for me...

 

[Harry Hughes]

Czech it Harold

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/production-tips/556843-tips-blendin-kickz-plz.html

i usually just layer up a bunch of kicks until it sounds nice then high-pass to keep the subs in control.

Awesome.
Tried out both those tips, and now my kick sound is better.
BTW, your dog fucking rules Marcus