Classical Guitar

[Nebulous]

I think as a solo clip, this sounds fine. If there was anything to nit pick about I would agree with Metaltastic in saying that it could have been miced a touch closer, and of course knowing that the strings were dead just makes me want to hear it again with fresh ones.

It's been a while since I've seen the term around here, what does ORTF stand for again?

 

[LeSedna]

Oops sorry I was misunderstood I don't say your record is bad !

After having re-listened to it, I notice something that may be really important : there is a lot of reverb (natural or processed ?), that "rounds" the sound a lot.

About my second sentence... Dunno how to say, but all classical instrument have that wood feeling, that set of parasite sounds that in the end are not parasites.

But there is also something important in that sort of recordings : the most important part of the chain will stay the player, and it's not the same when you hear something from a student (don't make me say something I don't, he plays damn well !) as when you listen to this :

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YcrGUkdD1I&feature=related[/ame]

If you listen well, even if it's a compressed YT movie, the sound is less round and has all that wood character that I love. You can really well hear the metal low strings create the vibration of the table, the roundness of the high strings, the fingers movings, the range of dynamics, etc. That's what maybe your own recording lacks a bit (for example all strings sound a bit the same in yours).

That's just my opinion, yours already sounds good !

Another thing is that... in the video, it's Azabagic

 

[Metaltastic]

Maybe I'm just interpreting LaSedna wishfully, but I think he means he wants it closer-mic'ed to hear more details and noise

And this reminds me of Felix Neumann's beautiful classical guitar piece that he recorded; to me it sounds great, but a lot of people pointed out that it sounds way too modern for stuffy classical guitar purists, and perhaps that's a similar quandary to what's going on here. Well FWIW, I say FUCK the stuffy old classical fagballfaces, and worship at the alter of Jens Bogren for all your acoustic mic'ing needs!

And yes I know Felix ran his guitar direct for that recording, but it still sounds pretty good to me! Check it out though, I think it's gorgeous

 

[LeSedna]

I've listened to that recording, it's pretty wonderful of course ! Its a shame I had missed it.

But I would rather tend to say "yes but the same with a natural sound would juste be PERFECT" cause it is more listenable technically speaking, it's clean and clear, but I do feel there is less dynamics, it's sure, and the preamp kills the low notes ! It sounds a bit plastic to me in the low notes. It's gorgeous for the type of sound he wanted, but for the search of purity that classical music aims at, it's more the wrong way. And I'm pretty sure it's not a matter of being used to a sound. It's a bit like listening to the requiem of mozart being miked by a thousand of mikes or being played by a vst orchestra, and comparing it to an basic recording.

For me both are beautiful, but for a pure classical search of dynamics, feeling, purity, I would listen to a classical recording.

And yeah I guess you're right, maybe recording closer would save "my" problem

 

[LeSedna]

the pb is not that it sounds bad. the pb is that it kills a bit of the last % of essence in the playing that is the pure interest of good classical music !

EDIT : I'm even relistening it cause it's very nice and well dosed. It's a very interesting recording !

 

[NickL]

You know I tend to agree with most of whats being said here about close micing, but that doesnt change the fact that this was an assignment for a stereo classical recording class haha. The instructor is always going on and on about how much he hates close mic'ing on acoustic instruments so its not really an option, nor is it really relevant to this particular class.

LeSedna: I misunderstood you, I think its a slight language barrier but I've got it now. It's all natural reverb, theres no processing at all on here and I think when I have time to do a little EQ and put a digital reverb on it you'll like it a bit more. When I do the final recording I'm going to take your dudes' advice and bring the mics in about 6 inches and angle them a bit closer together to get some more of the high end. Also, he is a student but he's very good. He will be absolutely stellar in another 5 years and he better put some goddamn new strings on the next time I record him.

Thanks for the input everybody

 

[Metaltastic]

Oh ok, I didn't realize it was for an assignment, I thought you just wanted honest feedback about the sound

 

[NickL]

Oh ok, I didn't realize it was for an assignment, I thought you just wanted honest feedback about the sound

Oh I did, don't get me wrong. But its specifically a certain thing I'm meant to do here so I guess stylistic critiques are not really relevant at the moment if that makes any sense at all.

 

[MT01]

Le Sedna, here's the whole original piece and it really does have a noise floor to worry about this time!

Amazingly fast runs on a guitar with a neck like a baseball bat!

 

[Felix Neumann]

Hi Broodwich!

This really touched me, I like it a lot. For the approach to get an authentic classical sound in a roomy environment, it´s good. As long as music has an effect on me, both thumbs up! Feedback about technical details is not my specialization, but maybe for the next time you could use a fine Mic (I recommend the TLM103 for this approach, although you have to mind out the environment noises) and go closer to the hole.

And this reminds me of Felix Neumann's beautiful classical guitar piece that he recorded; to me it sounds great, but a lot of people pointed out that it sounds way too modern for stuffy classical guitar purists, and perhaps that's a similar quandary to what's going on here. Well FWIW, I say FUCK the stuffy old classical fagballfaces, and worship at the alter of Jens Bogren for all your acoustic mic'ing needs!

And yes I know Felix ran his guitar direct for that recording, but it still sounds pretty good to me! Check it out though, I think it's gorgeous

Hahaha yeah Marcus, thanks so much for mention me. It´s an honour This thread really motivates me to mic my Yamaha APX as well. It´s not really an art to plug a concert guitar directly in the mixer (except eqing)..It´s pretty easy, but the result really was satisfactory.

 

[LeSedna]

I already listened to that video. It's so full of emotion...