Classics Reborn

[redfly]

I'm reading a bio about a guy who was lead singer of one of our pioneering pub rock bands who came up through the 60's playing and organising gigs in a shitty back water town in South Australia where the government dumped a heap of Poms, Scots and Irish when they tried to increase immigration. Was a shitty time for most but it created tough kids who went on to be tough adults playing rock influenced by UK bands like The Who, and then influenced by aggression and loud sounds of punk bands like Sex Pistols.

The Angles never played metal but they played hard, loud, and fast before metal was really a thing and by the mid 70's they were selling out pubs and clubs 6 nights a week. They were nearly more popular than AC/DC but AC/DC had a record contract with Vanda and Young (Alberts Records) giving them albums and a budget to spend. It was a rough scene of alcohol fuel violence as working class drunks battled rebellious youth and up coming punks and future metalheads. Angus and Bon talked Vanda and Young into giving The Angels a shot when they came to Sydney, which they did and under Alberts Records they got a pretty unfair deal but were able to release albums.

Their deal with Alberts was that they organised their own gigs and merch but recording was done by Alberts. They would have unlimited use of the studio but Vanda and Young were the only producers. The standard deals worldwide for sales back then was an immediate loss of 10% for damages because vinyl was fragile and labels would not wear the cost of stock lost to damage. From that 90% the band got 5% and Alberts kept the rest as well as retaining 100% royalties on songs they recorded.

In 79 Epic Records in the US signed contracts with 50 overseas bands, The Angles was one of them and they relocated to the US to record and take on the local scene. In the US they played as Angel City because of naming conflicts and while they had some success it was never as lucrative for them as their local market. However the deal they signed with Epic was reportedly worth $2M. That deal was for 2 albums which was a standard deal all 50 of the bands signed that year got. With Epic the same 10% went immediately for breakages but the bands got 12% of the remaining 90%. Management fees, private legals etc then came out of that 12% before the band got paid. Epic was slightly better with royalties only taking 50% of anything they recorded not the 100% Alberts in Australia was taking.

Although The Angles didn't resign with Alberts (or Epic) when they returned to Oz two years later the Alberts deal was still more lucrative for the band than the Epic deal because of the free studio time etc. It's weird to think that a deal where something you create only yields you 12% of the profits is actually a worse deal than getting 5% of the profits.

That's insane. What a rip off. I can't believe the bands have to pay for breakage of vinyl.

 

[Slammed]

I'm getting ripped off again! the last three storms we've gotten roughly three inches of snow each.

Do you really really want to be snowed in and freezing cold or do you just want snow because the weather man said it was coming?

 

[Slammed]

That's insane. What a rip off. I can't believe the bands have to pay for breakage of vinyl.

Considering the number of records the band themselves would break would have to have been very small it does suck.
You really have to wonder what other caveats are in those contracts. Insurance sellers used to be known for having loop holes galore. Car and house salesmen for hiding truths and damages etc and of course lawyers are often referred to as scum of the earth, but it really makes you wonder where the guy who writes record contract sits on the shit pile.

 

[redfly]

Do you really really want to be snowed in and freezing cold or do you just want snow because the weather man said it was coming?

Well no I don't want to be frozen. But I do want to be snowed in!

 

[Slammed]

What is the fascination with snow?
I really cant stand the stuff, I hate being cold (although hot and humid sucks too), and I hate all that wet stuff being everywhere.

 

[redfly]

Personally? Because it makes everything look nice and clean,and it's so much more peaceful, no one is out. The trees get nice and crystal y looking. And it's just a nice change. Did I mention no one was out?
Oh! And sledding! And then come in for cocoa!... If I wasn't too lazy!
I used to love tossing snowballs to my dog.

 

[Slammed]

No ones been out for two years here, all you need is a pandemic not snow...oh and over reacting politicians

And in Australia we throw tennis balls to dogs, you should try that

 

[redfly]

Tennis balls?! Barbarians.

 

[Slammed]

We don't throw them at the dogs

 

[redfly]

Chuckle.

 

[Neptune]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZcVYD-P9UQ/?utm_medium=share_sheet

 

[Slammed]

He's nearly baby faced Gary there

 

[Neptune]

Young insane eyes lol!

 

[redfly]

I hate pick guards.

 

[Slammed]

Well he did say the guitar is in pieces, perhaps you can email him and suggest he not put it back on

 

[redfly]

Hahahaha! That would be great.
Maybe it pissed him off so much that he wrecked the guitar!

 

[Slammed]

He used those crazy eyes and it just fell apart in fear

 

[redfly]

I'd imagine that is what happened!

 

[Neptune]

https://fb.watch/aWEEGldax2/

 

[Slammed]

Fuck! I got distracted, the video underneath the one you linked to was (obviously set up), a flight stewardess 'overheating' and stripping down to her underwear. What was the song??