Classics Reborn

Back in the 80's there was a flood of cassettes from Thailand where their rules allowed them to copy the art and album and sell full blown dodgy copies of anything released in their country. People were buying huge amounts of tapes for $5 and less. Then these businesses started turning up locally at markets and fetes etc, then they moved in DVD's and CD's. They must have made shit load of money and every time the cops shut them down they would change markets, open again until they got busted.

The t-shirt market wasn't quite as lucrative until whatever law was passed that allowed certain unlicensed material. Often band names would be removed, or written in a different font, the picture used was not copyrighted and things like tour names would not be added because they breached copyright rules (as Gene and Paul have been trying to protect recently). What really sucks is when those cheap sweat shop shirts increase in price closer to the price of the genuine ones.
 
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Wow from Thailand? That's a new one for me. It really sucks when the market gets flooded with stuff like that, maybe not a first. Until the legit businesses disappear and then the bootleggers get busted. And then there's a giant hole that sometimes never gets back to where it was. Or the prices skyrocket because they say they got so badly hurt by the bootleggers. And skyrocket prices aren't good for anyone.
 
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Thailand is the place Aussies go to get drunk, not quite the 'spring break' thing Hollywood movies talk about but sort of close. They have some weird laws there and until about 15 years ago piracy laws were almost no existent, even now the authorities would rather chase other crimes so bootleggers and straight out scammers are plentiful there.

One of the biggest problems for us is that ticket scalpers, t-shirt/merchandise bootleggers and DVD pirates are all done by big time groups. Once upon a time you'd get a few ticket scalpers at gigs who bought 20 tickets and then tried to rip them off at double the cost. Now days it's large overseas groups buying hundreds of tickets and tripling the cost when shows sell out and real fans are desperate to get tickets. Merchandise and DVD are not as big of a market for these idiots any more.
 
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Well with ticket prices what they are it's not very good to begin with. It costs a lot of money to come down here but we have very greedy concert promoters. Overkill earlier this month was about $65US for a 1500 capacity room. But our big venues (15,000 plus) where the majority of scalpers and shitheads work because they are big gigs with lots of fans will start out at double that for the nose bleed section. Front row tickets to Neil Diamond a few years ago were going for $375 before the scalpers got them. In part it's the performer who asks for a large payment package but a large part is still the greedy promoters and the silly fans who pay that price.
 
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Well with ticket prices what they are it's not very good to begin with. It costs a lot of money to come down here but we have very greedy concert promoters. Overkill earlier this month was about $65US for a 1500 capacity room. But our big venues (15,000 plus) where the majority of scalpers and shitheads work because they are big gigs with lots of fans will start out at double that for the nose bleed section. Front row tickets to Neil Diamond a few years ago were going for $375 before the scalpers got them. In part it's the performer who asks for a large payment package but a large part is still the greedy promoters and the silly fans who pay that price.
Wow $65 for Overkill
 
Wow $65 for Overkill

I can almost accept $65 for Overkill in a small venue because I remember paying $40 for Megadeth on the RIP tour in a 4000 capacity arena and about $60 for Metallica on AJFA which was in a 14,000 capacity arena. Over 20+ years that's not an unfair price jump but paying north of $150 I refuse to do.

When GNR toured here for on the Illusion tour they got paid a million dollars for each gig (they only did two) and it was deemed to be such a big show they could only put it on in a place that could handle 50,000+ people. It was badly organised, out of the city, the buses ran late and it pissed down rain in nearly 100F heat. But despite that they got paid and the tickets were only $80. I know everything has gone up in price since the 90's but there is no way ticket prices are worth the $160+ they charge here for general admin on a band that can play 10,000+ seat venues.
 
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Haha, even back then Axl was Axl.
Four bands, stinking hot and with a rain delay in the middle he had no hope of going on stage on time. Concert was suppose to finish in time to get people back to the city for the last trains at midnight we didn't get back to the city until nearly 4:30am.
GNR were good but they were blown away by Rose Tattoo who they requested be on the bill, but by and far the best band of the night was Skid Row.
 
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Yeah I agree. I liked them back then but had not seen them live and they totally blew everyone away. By the time Illusions was released GNR were on life support and it showed. They were still able to demand just about everything but they didn't deserve it. GNR in their most recent tour (which wasn't all GNR) was better than on the Illusions tour.
 
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