Cool series to check out... music related.

[timislegend]

I think it's part of the agreement to go on the show. They do get to record for free, get publicity (that is if anyone watches the show). The band wasn't too interested in improving their sound either.

so band hires producer, doesn't want to change the song, doesn't want it to sound better.
I think Moe was rightfully annoyed by the situation. Especially since they seemed to agree with him in the rehearsal and changed their mind once they got to the studio making the day of pre-production completely pointless.

i think a lot can be said here... we all know that the music making/recording process is a vibe thing.

growing up i was always told to "curb the ego" ...and build the talent's.

learn to be persuasive but likable. most importantly if your ideas and suggestions are not being used, you are failing.

never blame the talent for being conceded or closed minded.

(the music belongs to them... they are allowed to be closed minded).

these kids didn't seem like jerks until moe told them to change the ending of the song.

 

[SimonTaddio_Qc]

Producer: Maybe we can do the chorus twice, and then into the bridge.

Drummer:




You never get tired of those things!

 

[Zombietakeover]

It's a cool show but all the bands are Hideous

 

[robfromthedeep]

It's a cool show but all the bands are Hideous

Hit the nail on the head

 

[pipaguapique]

i like how some of the demos sound better than the final track...hahaha...

 

[timislegend]

i like how some of the demos sound better than the final track...hahaha...

seriously... this particular demo wasn't great ...but the final... ?

i would have been disappointed in the end.


it's funny because the band actually seems content with the demo sound.

the guitarist: "yeah, you can add delays and reverb... just make it sound like the demo."

sounds nothing like the demo.

 

[Jind]

I've only watched two episodes so far but have enjoyed them quite a bit just for what they are - episodic programs about recording music (better than half the crap that comes across network TV daily).

On this whole issue with Moe being a bit to "pushy", my thoughts are (not that anyone asked nor cares), is that a band hires a producer to not only oversee the entire recording project - all the logistical stuff, but also to provide insight and guidance based upon that persons experience as a producer. In most cases you look for a producer that has had success at their job (getting artists presented positively with the best possible end product) and it's expected that this person can provide insight that cannot come from within your band. The most common saying is "another set of eyes", or in this case "ears". He's doing exactly what you hire a producer to do - to provide an outside opinion of your music and to suggest ways of improving the end product. If all you wanted was someone to mix - then only hire the engineer (no - I'm not gonna get into a debate about the differences between the roles and what they each bring to the table), but in most cases one would hope the producer is suggesting things they honestly feel make a better release based on past accumulated experience.

Just my 2 cents and as always your mileage may vary.

 

[AudioPhile777]

On this whole issue with Moe being a bit to "pushy", my thoughts are (not that anyone asked nor cares), is that a band hires a producer to not only oversee the entire recording project - all the logistical stuff, but also to provide insight and guidance based upon that persons experience as a producer. In most cases you look for a producer that has had success at their job (getting artists presented positively with the best possible end product) and it's expected that this person can provide insight that cannot come from within your band. The most common saying is "another set of eyes", or in this case "ears". He's doing exactly what you hire a producer to do - to provide an outside opinion of your music and to suggest ways of improving the end product. If all you wanted was someone to mix - then only hire the engineer (no - I'm not gonna get into a debate about the differences between the roles and what they each bring to the table), but in most cases one would hope the producer is suggesting things they honestly feel make a better release based on past accumulated experience.

I agree.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Actually, the more I watch, the more I'm really not into that Moe guy as a producer/person. He seems like that pushy, borderline hippy-dippy, awkward geek stereotype of a producer/Dream Theater fan. Just not the kind of guy I would want telling me what to do as an artist.

The guy lacks authority. He strikes me more like that annoying little cartoon character that's jumping and bustling about, trying to fit in and appear convincing in his artsy cardigan.

Thena gain, I only watched a couple of episodes and I've never worked with the guy, so I might have got a totally wrong impression. And I just came home from 13 hours of tracking guitars for an alt/prog rock band, which contained a fuck ton of different fuzz and space invaders tones, so I might be in a bit of an irritable mindset right now

 

[Russtopher]

It bugs me a tiny bit that they seem to want to edit drums, bass, guitar, *everything* - I suppose that's how pretty much all styles of music are dealt with in mixdown now, but it seems weird that you'd take a folk rock song and want to snap stuff to the grid.

 

[jipchen]

Just my 2 cents and as always your mileage may vary.

Another +1.
That's pretty much exactly what I tried to say.. but couldn't because my english sucks.

 

[Morgan C]

The player isn't working for me at all.. no-one else has this issue? I keep getting 'this video is not available right now, check back later'. I got the first 5 mins playing on IE yesterday and then it popped up with being unavailable again.

 

[Harry Hughes]

The player isn't working for me at all.. no-one else has this issue? I keep getting 'this video is not available right now, check back later'. I got the first 5 mins playing on IE yesterday and then it popped up with being unavailable again.

I think we're getting fucked for being Australian, doesn't work for me either

 

[Chris_P_Critter]

SSL9000 - isn't that what CLA uses?

Just watched his "demo of the board" video - pretty cool.