Creating the African Superman

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Bill Cosby absorbed quite a bit of flak for criticizing the media creation of "black culture" for endorsing gangsta behavior, obscenity, laziness and selfishness. Far smarter than the average person, Cosby represents the prototype of a new African-American: the intelligent and mobile critical thinker.

Suppose for a moment that Bill Cosby used his millions to buy up a cable network and create a new kind of black fascist propaganda. "We will create the African Superman," Cosby says, with a nod to F.W. Nietzsche and Margaret Mead, "who will replace this tedious gangsta rap baggy-pants culture with something better."

Creating the African Superman

 

[War_Blade]

who would have thought that Mr. Huxtable is really a madman hell bent on world domination...?

 

[speed]

Bill Cosby absorbed quite a bit of flak for criticizing the media creation of "black culture" for endorsing gangsta behavior, obscenity, laziness and selfishness. Far smarter than the average person, Cosby represents the prototype of a new African-American: the intelligent and mobile critical thinker.

Suppose for a moment that Bill Cosby used his millions to buy up a cable network and create a new kind of black fascist propaganda. "We will create the African Superman," Cosby says, with a nod to F.W. Nietzsche and Margaret Mead, "who will replace this tedious gangsta rap baggy-pants culture with something better."

Creating the African Superman

This might be the funniest thing Ive ever read. Cosby (not wearing one of his famed sweaters mind you) and his lieutenants, gas 50 cent and his gangsta brohers, and six million marxist-leaning gangstas. Oh, how fun! And think of the inspiring Fat Albert style speeches inside Black gangsta beerhalls, or his cool, colorboard lessons!

 

[OldScratch]

Well...to say that this Quasi-National Socialist/NeoAfro-centric concept is at best anthropologically implausible, is to say that even plausibility itself would have to first be redefined to properly capture just how absurd this is. What's more, the very essense of the Nietzschean Overman recoils at the rank familiarity of the whole assertion. Nothing new or fresh here...just an old (and ultimately failed)ideology resurrected with a new cast. Ubermensch? To use the modern vernacular...Puuhleeeze!!

 

[Norsemaiden]

It was a clever article, and amusing. Cosby's Black Supermen sound like coconuts (black on outside, white on inside) to me. The Zulus, at least how they were in the past, are a good example of Black excellence. A main part of the "racism" against blacks now is this idea that they have to conform to values set by white men. This is unfair and unrealistic. Long live the difference!

 

[Horus]

Another popular term for Black on the outside, White on the inside, is OREOs.

 

[Jrgen]

Well...to say that this Quasi-National Socialist/NeoAfro-centric concept is at best anthropologically implausible, is to say that even plausibility itself would have to first be redefined to properly capture just how absurd this is. What's more, the very essense of the Nietzschean Overman recoils at the rank familiarity of the whole assertion. Nothing new or fresh here...just an old (and ultimately failed)ideology resurrected with a new cast. Ubermensch? To use the modern vernacular...Puuhleeeze!!

I don't think you, whoever wrote that article, or Hitler fully understand/understood the concept of Nietzsche's Übermensch. It is IMO a very sharp analysis of cultural and political evolution, which actually applies to reality. I suggest reading Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment to get a good idea what the Übermensch is all about, if you think Nietzsche's writings on the subject are too heavy and boring.

 

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I don't think you, whoever wrote that article, or Hitler fully understand/understood the concept of Nietzsche's Übermensch. It is IMO a very sharp analysis of cultural and political evolution, which actually applies to reality. I suggest reading Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment to get a good idea what the Übermensch is all about, if you think Nietzsche's writings on the subject are too heavy and boring.

I dont think Hitler had any idea either, and the article is clearly parody. Of course, Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment was written before Thus Spake Zarathustra, and deals more or less with the moral/religious/psychological/and social nature of the Man-god as Fyodor called him (Dostoevsky's ubermensch, he called a God-Man--or was it the other way around? The bad was either Man-god or God-man; the good vice versa. Well essentially the good Dostoevskian superman was a christ-like figure).

Nietszche's ubermensch is one of pristine philosophical vision and creative-spirit; the extra-moral aspects seem to be the only thing lesser intellects latch on to, when they are indeed, mere relics that the ubermensch replaces.

 

[OldScratch]

I don't think you, whoever wrote that article, or Hitler fully understand/understood the concept of Nietzsche's Übermensch. It is IMO a very sharp analysis of cultural and political evolution, which actually applies to reality. I suggest reading Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment to get a good idea what the Übermensch is all about, if you think Nietzsche's writings on the subject are too heavy and boring.

Well, if "we" are all mistaken, by all means elucidate; tell us why that is exactly. Naturally, I'm particularly curious how you make that assessment based on my comment - I only made the reference at all based on the assertions in the original post. I certainly do not claim to be an expert on all things Nietzsche. Are you suggesting that the idea IS in fact consistent with the concept of the Ubermensch? Or have I misread this entirely?

 

[OldScratch]

It was a clever article, and amusing. Cosby's Black Supermen sound like coconuts (black on outside, white on inside) to me. The Zulus, at least how they were in the past, are a good example of Black excellence. A main part of the "racism" against blacks now is this idea that they have to conform to values set by white men. This is unfair and unrealistic. Long live the difference!

Which White values, in particular, do you see as incompatible with Blacks, and thus unfair or unrealistic? I'm intrigued by this assertion. In America such an idea would(ironically enough)itself be considered "racist" as it implies Blacks do not wish to, or simply cannot live by White societal norms.

 

[Norsemaiden]

Which White values, in particular, do you see as incompatible with Blacks, and thus unfair or unrealistic? I'm intrigued by this assertion. In America such an idea would(ironically enough)itself be considered "racist" as it implies Blacks do not wish to, or simply cannot live by White societal norms.

This is just an opinion. It could be said that Whites are a freak of nature: a collection of recessive genes and odd behaviours not found in other races. If whites had never existed, there would simply be primitive tribes, rising no further perhaps than the stone age. No civilisations. No world overpopulation. No man made environmental crisis.

I have written an article "Vision of the Superman", which was temporarily available online, but not now. You could ask me for it if you are really interested.

In essence, my article claimed that Nietzsche's concept of the Superman could only come about from a certain group of (northern European type - due to the mentality of a race that would envisage an afterlife like Valhalla) people choosing themselves out and being the "bridge" to the Superman - creating him by successfully breeding the next stage in evolution.

The Superman would have no need of written moral codes nor religion nor law. They would have no decadence or degeneracy - not through suppression of such tendencies, but because they are not thus inclined. They would be scientifically minded and highly creative, and would colonise other planets (after rescuing Earth).

Life on earth is engaged in a process of evolution which can only go in one of three ways for humankind. Either extinction due to some kind of disaster, a falling back into a precivilised dark age, or the creation of a race of super beings.

 

[OldScratch]

I would indeed like to read the article you penned(I'm sure you know much more about this than I - I am admittedly relatively new to serious philosophy on the whole).
I must confess though, that I'm not certain I understand your response here in general. Perhaps I should say, I understand what you have stated, but I don't fully get your point in relationship to the original topic. (Sorry if I'm just a bit dense this morning ) Can you further explain little?
On a side note, It's curious that you noted "world overpopulation" as resulting from the presence of Whites on Earth. Overpopulation(at least insofar as such a thing is understood), is an entirely non-white phenomenon. Whites account for but a small percentage of mankind at all, and are hardly 'overpopulated' as a people/race - in fact, by all demographic accounts, Caucasians are not even reproducing at the replacement rate.

 

[Norsemaiden]

I would indeed like to read the article you penned(I'm sure you know much more about this than I - I am admittedly relatively new to serious philosophy on the whole).
I must confess though, that I'm not certain I understand your response here in general. Perhaps I should say, I understand what you have stated, but I don't fully get your point in relationship to the original topic. (Sorry if I'm just a bit dense this morning ) Can you further explain little?
On a side note, It's curious that you noted "world overpopulation" as resulting from the presence of Whites on Earth. Overpopulation(at least insofar as such a thing is understood), is an entirely non-white phenomenon. Whites account for but a small percentage of mankind at all, and are hardly 'overpopulated' as a people/race - in fact, by all demographic accounts, Caucasians are not even reproducing at the replacement rate.

It's a vast subject, and very controversial too. The world overpopulation is indeed non-white, but who gave them the means to expand their numbers so massively? They could not have done this without a combination of aid from the west, technology which the West foolishly allowed them to acquire, and farmers such as those who made Zimbawe the bread basket of Africa - oh yes and medecine from the west too.

 

[OldScratch]

Thank you - That very much clarifies the point and as it happens I agree completely, though I've never considered the problem as solely derived from White/Western meddling...but you have given me food for thought. It is indeed ironic that the Caucasoid population declines dramatically(as a percentage) even as the so-called developing world explodes, abetted by our pathologically altruistic foolishness. I guess it's true - no 'good' deed goes unpunished.

 

[Jrgen]

It's a vast subject, and very controversial too. The world overpopulation is indeed non-white, but who gave them the means to expand their numbers so massively? They could not have done this without a combination of aid from the west, technology which the West foolishly allowed them to acquire, and farmers such as those who made Zimbawe the bread basket of Africa - oh yes and medecine from the west too.

The majority of the world's population is mongoloid, not negroid. I'd disagree with you if you were to claim that the overpopulation in China and India is mainly the result of the industrialization. To claim the asian population is not capable of technological advancement without aid from the West would be foolish.

 

[Norsemaiden]

The majority of the world's population is mongoloid, not negroid. I'd disagree with you if you were to claim that the overpopulation in China and India is mainly the result of the industrialization. To claim the asian population is not capable of technological advancement without aid from the West would be foolish.

I wouldn't disagree that most of the world population is mongoloid. The Chinese have always had a high level of culture since their civilisation started, at a time cooincidental with the presence of the Takla Makan mummies (blue eyed Aryans) over 3000 years ago.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/chinamum/taklamakan.html

And here the faint traces of ancient life have long pressed a deep and vexing enigma. Did the civilization of ancient China arise in isolation? Or was there an unremembered link with the cultures of the West? Now, the echoes of voices long silent are offering startling testimony

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2502chinamum.html

The Chinese and Japanese (and to a lesser extent Indians) are good at understanding and perfecting western technology, yet they have a track record of never inventing anything original. They are expanding by developing what we allowed them to have in the past.

GLOVER, Thomas Blake (1838-1911)


Industrialist and engineer. Decribed as the founding father of Japan's economic miracle. His contribution to the industrialisation of Japan included the introduction of the first railway locomotive and the first mint; mechanisation of the coal-mines; the founding father of the Japanese Navy and the modernisation of the shipbuilding industry (his own company grew into Mitsubishi to whom he became a consultant); and the introduction of the Kusuge dock which was imported from Aberdeen to Nagasaki. This "Scottish Samurai" was the first non-Japanese person to be awarded the prestigious Order of the Rising Sun. The character Pinkerton in Puccini's opera Madame Butterfly is said to be modelled on him and his former house in Nagasaki is a top tourist attraction. His1997 The Scotsman reported that Sean Connery is likely to play the role of Glover in a film about his colourful life.
family home, Glover House, 79 Balgownie Road, Bridge of Don, Aberdeen is now open to the public as a restored Victorian House, telling the Glover story. He died on 16 December 1911 in Tokyo. On 5 May

In the US the main foreign spies are Chinese stealing US technology.http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05222/551701.stm


The Chinese population is about 4x the size it would have been without technology, medecine and agricultural practice.

The Bumese, Vietnamese, Philippinos and Indonesians are nearer to the negro level of advancement. Their population is incredibly much higher than it would be without western contribution. The Philippines has tragically gone from 99% forest to about 1% in the last 25 years. This sickening situation demands a radical reduction in their population.

 

[Jrgen]

I wouldn't disagree that most of the world population is mongoloid. The Chinese have always had a high level of culture since their civilisation started, at a time cooincidental with the presence of the Takla Makan mummies (blue eyed Aryans) over 3000 years ago.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/chinamum/taklamakan.html

Please don't tell me you are actually serious. I know about these caucasoid mummies found quite recently, but the settlements thought to be connected to these mummies are by far inferior to the ones already existent in quite diverse forms throughout Asia. To see these as some sort of "bringer of culture" or the Viracocha or Quetzalcoatl of Asia, is just ridiculous. Just because there was caucasoid presence, does not mean there was some kind of "teaching the uneducated inhabitants" going on. Most of the Hindu gods are blue and Vishnu sometimes has fins, does that mean Taj Mahal was built by nommos who emerged from the sea?

 

[MURAI]

 

[fah-q]

Bill Cosby absorbed quite a bit of flak for criticizing the media creation of "black culture" for endorsing gangsta behavior, obscenity, laziness and selfishness. Far smarter than the average person, Cosby represents the prototype of a new African-American: the intelligent and mobile critical thinker.

Suppose for a moment that Bill Cosby used his millions to buy up a cable network and create a new kind of black fascist propaganda. "We will create the African Superman," Cosby says, with a nod to F.W. Nietzsche and Margaret Mead, "who will replace this tedious gangsta rap baggy-pants culture with something better."

Creating the African Superman

Are you saying that the current brand of "black culture" is fascist propaganda?

 

[Norsemaiden]

Please don't tell me you are actually serious. I know about these caucasoid mummies found quite recently, but the settlements thought to be connected to these mummies are by far inferior to the ones already existent in quite diverse forms throughout Asia. To see these as some sort of "bringer of culture" or the Viracocha or Quetzalcoatl of Asia, is just ridiculous. Just because there was caucasoid presence, does not mean there was some kind of "teaching the uneducated inhabitants" going on. Most of the Hindu gods are blue and Vishnu sometimes has fins, does that mean Taj Mahal was built by nommos who emerged from the sea?

The Chinese continue to consider their whitest elements to be the elite. Their decline in inventiveness is a consequence of the loss of these genes. (Inventiveness has always been rare in any population).

This is better information. I found this information by checking out http://www.whitehistory.com
And then I further verified it by seeing the same information on
http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20050419-101056-2135r.htm

Genetic testing reveals awkward truth about Xinjiang’s famous mummies
(AFP)

19 April 2005

URUMQI, China - After years of controversy and political intrigue, archaeologists using genetic testing have proven that Caucasians roamed China’s Tarim Basin 1,000 years before East Asian people arrived.

The research, which the Chinese government has appeared to have delayed making public out of concerns of fueling Uighur Muslim separatism in its western-most Xinjiang region, is based on a cache of ancient dried-out corpses that have been found around the Tarim Basin in recent decades.

You should check this article out. Notice the fact that I can back up my claims. You should try it some time.

The discoveries in the 1980s of the undisturbed 4,000-year-old ”Beauty of Loulan” and the younger 3,000-year-old body of the ”Charchan Man” are legendary in world archaeological circles for the fine state of their preservation and for the wealth of knowledge they bring to modern research.

All you white folks who hate your history must be saddened indeed by this kind of discovery.

Over the centuries, the Silk Road sprouted a civilization of its own. It was as fantastically long as it was oddly narrow, lined with imposing temples and thriving cities. It was thought that these structures were built by the Chinese, but it now seems that the architects were a little-known local people known as the Tocharians, who seem to have appeared in these parts over 2,000 years ago. Some of their cities were located remarkably close to the ancient mummy graveyards in the Takla Makan, suggesting that this mysterious tribe may be connected to the mummy people.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2502chinamum.html
Do you not know the reason why the Hindu gods are painted blue?
It is an exaggeration of the aryan white skin. Hindus prefer to be born lighter skinned and this is an indication of higher caste. Ever heard the term "blue blooded?"

Blue is also a spiritual colour and Vishnu is a water god.