Credit Card Recommendations

I use credit cards, but I pay the full balance when the bill comes in. If I can't afford it, I don't buy it. Simple as that. If the money is not in the checking account, I don't buy it.

I know not everyone can live that way (especially with the rough economy now), but if you let it get out of hand, you'll be hard pressed to get out of debt.

Same. In 6 years of having my own CC, I've never left an outstanding balance once. I make sure to be aware of my checking and CC balances at all times and essentially treat my CC as cash. Sure, I could use a debit card or cash but then I wouldn't have gotten over $600 back in rewards points. This last PP my mom even bought us the flights as a present through her own rewards points.
You do not need to leave a balance for it to positively effect your CC rating.

And in regard to your later post, I've had a Citi card now for about 3 years and though I'm getting rid of it in favor of a better rewards card, I've had a pretty good experience overall with them. The one time I had a fraudulent charge on my CC, I simply called up and they took care of it.
 
I already have a Visa check card/ credit card that grabs available funds out of my checking account. But I am looking for another credit card. Are there any good ones out there with no stupid annual fees or other weird fees? Any recommendations would be great (websites too!).

I guess the question is... why do you 'need' a credit card?

Although I have a pretty high credit card balance and still have really good credit, I would tend to agree with everyone who tells you to avoid them. It is very easy despite the best of intentions to wind up with a balance that grows monstrously large. :/

That said, I have only one regular cc (and a few store ones that I have gotten, used once or twice, and paid off). I had a Citi card for a few years and hated them. I now have a card through USAA--not sure what their guidelines are now, but they are for military and military families only, so my opinion may be useless to you. They have no annual fee, a great interest rate, and no gimmicks. I have almost everything through them. The service is generally stellar, and I love how much I can do on their Web site.

Shaye
 
I now have 4 credit cards with an extremely vast credit limit between them. All have a 0 balance, and will always, from now on, carry that. Unless I am presented with a financial emergency.
 
That said, I have only one regular cc (and a few store ones that I have gotten, used once or twice, and paid off). I had a Citi card for a few years and hated them. I now have a card through USAA--not sure what their guidelines are now, but they are for military and military families only, so my opinion may be useless to you. They have no annual fee, a great interest rate, and no gimmicks. I have almost everything through them. The service is generally stellar, and I love how much I can do on their Web site.

Shaye

Same here, we have a USAA Platinum Mastercard at a very very low interest rate, and have had it for over 20 years and have never, i mean never had one single problem. We also have our home owners, auto, life insurance with them, we had our mortage with them till it was paid off, and not one single complaint.
I would say their CC are the best out there.
 
I always go based on the other goodies involved. Amex with cash back, or more recently, a Skymiles card since I have been traveling a lot more. I don't really care about the rate because I never let myself run a balance.
 
I will now set the record straight because credit is what I do for a living, biznatch (I own a mortgage company)! =)

Here's the deal:

Of your credit rating, 30% of the score is a direct result of the amount of revolving debt you have, relative to the amount of revolving credit you have AVAILABLE.

Here's how it breaks down....let's say you have the following:

Visa $10,000 limit, $10,000 balance (maxed out, right?)
M/C $10,000 limit, $0 balance
Visa $20,000 limit, $5000 balance
Discover $10,000 limit, $0 balance

So the totals are $50,000 in aggregate limits, and $15,000 in aggregate revolving balances. The bureaus take the balance divided by the limit and figure out what your usage percentage is. If that percentage is lower than 30%, they don't hit your score. Then, if it's above 30% there is a tiered setup where they take off points as the percentage goes up. They will not release how many points they take off to the public, but they have let us know these generic things.

In this case, the usage percentage is $15,000/$50,000 = 30%, so this person is right on the line as to whether they're getting dinged for points or not.

Of your credit score, this is approximately how it breaks down:
30% payment history
30% public records such as bankruptcy, foreclosure, short sale, lien, judgment, etc.
30% revolving usage
10% other such as age of accounts, inquiries, and so forth.

Bottom line? Credit scoring is a game, and you have to know the rules. The way to beat the system is to have the highest aggregate revolving credit limits you can, and stay out of revolving debt. Keep your balances under 30% of the total limits on all your cards. The strategy we use is that we have 4 cards. They all have massive limits, but we only use one. If we happen to carry a balance on it, even if it's maxed out, it can't impact our scores because of what we have available elsewhere. The fact that it's weighted just as heavily as a bankruptcy should tell you how important this is.

Capital One are actually a depository bank, just not in GA. They have branches in other parts of the country though. They have very aggressive deals on credit cards & car loans for highly qualified people.

We have a client right this minute that only has a 673 score, which is average. However, his credit is perfect. His problem is that he has 3 store accounts that are at about 80% usage (the irony is that they're all at 0% interest) and he closed all his other accounts. Smart thinking, right? Beat the banks by using OPM at 0%, and keep your other accounts closed, so you don't get tempted, right? **WRONG**

This is costing him 50+ points on his score, and it's costing him about .5% on his mortgage rate because of all of the hits that Fannie & Freddie instituted this year to try to stay solvent.

It's a joke, the whole system is set up to enrich banks at the end of the day. You owe a lot of money on your card? Guess what? Your credit score is going to be weighed down, which means it's more expensive to get another loan, which further profits the banks. You close your cards so you don't get in that boat? Same deal, scores get lowered, you get hosed. Credit scoring is the most unfair thing for the average American consumer - because the lenders don't care about anything but your score. The scoring mechanism doesn't care about anything but the raw data. The bureaus won't release the workings of the scoring mechanism, because it's a "trade secret", so consumers have to manage their money without any data upon which to base decisions, which ends up costing them money. Guess who the bureaus' biggest clients are? You guessed it, the banks. This is a great example of the "good-ol-boy" network but on a grand scale, innit?

So you have successfully become a number or a cog in the system.

Rant being over....on credit cards, I would look for one with no annual fee, and a good rate under 10% fixed. Or you could get one right now that is linked to Prime Rate, with a decent margin - say 4 or 5% - because Prime just went down to 3.25% after today's Fed rate cut. Be wary though, read the fine print on them periodically after you get the account, because they can summarily change the terms and not really notify you of such.....

I have personally had good luck with Advanta, Chase, and Capital One. I have a Capital One at 7.99% fixed forever. Wachovia....no thanks. They're douches, and I bank there unfortunately. Bank Of America/Suntrust/other big banks I can't recall....they sell their cards to FIA, and those guys are bad news too. Discover sucks donkey, their rates are always the highest and they one of the most aggressive at raising rates, fees, etc. Useless. AMEX is great if you pay it off monthly and use the travel services, but otherwise I would steer clear because they usually have a big annual fee.
 
Capital One is not bad if you have good credit, and plan on keeping up with the card like nothing else. I loved my 2 cards, but on 1 of them they gave a young guy too much credit, and end of story, but the card was amazing, no overlimit fees, no late fees, low low low interest, no other charges, but the monthly payments became too high because i charged it up way too high and wasn't able to keep upo with it, but that was my own fault. Now I wish I could go back and get the the card, but use it wisely and I would be set.
 
Jon, good advice. I'm sorry I told my friends to go to eloan.com for their housebuying endeavour; I should have sent them to you. :kickass:


Errrrm..... My credit score is the same as my area code. :saint:
 
Thanks everyone! I now have a great card coming. No annual fee, 0% for 12 months and only 8% thereafter. I pay my card off 100% every month and NEVER I repeat NEVER pay a finance charge. It also has a $1200 limit which is nice. Woohoo.
 
Thanks for the info, Jon... I might go out and get a new credit card to lower my overall ratio of used/available credit now. I want to improve my score a bit before we go looking for a house and thought the only way to do that was to pay my balance down.

That said, I didn't realize my credit score was as high as it was. Yippee!

Shaye
 
the best thing you can do for your credit rating is pay your balance down. Don't forget that your credit score is also based on debt to income ratio. Any time an agency checks your credit (like, for example, when you get a new card) it'll ding your score.
 
the best thing you can do for your credit rating is pay your balance down. Don't forget that your credit score is also based on debt to income ratio. Any time an agency checks your credit (like, for example, when you get a new card) it'll ding your score.

Well, obviously. :) I am just wondering if that would help me get a few extra points. With a high debt ratio (only so much I can do about that), I need a very high credit score. :)

Shaye
 
When you're buying a house, they're going to take your debt ratio into account a lot quicker than your credit score. At least, they did for me. Also, be sure you have 20% of the purchase price to put down, or you're going to be unbelievably screwed.
 
When you're buying a house, they're going to take your debt ratio into account a lot quicker than your credit score.

Which is completely understandable, really....

Also, be sure you have 20% of the purchase price to put down, or you're going to be unbelievably screwed.

Yep....either you'll have to pay PMI, which as my broker at Eloan.com said "is like pouring money down a hole," or you'll have to get an 80/20 mortgage...although a co-worker told me those were no longer being offered by lenders.

The high one or the low one? :p

Well, interesting point. When people refer to your 'credit score,' how many different answers are there?
I hear about the FICO (tm) score, and that's the one I was referring to, but there are references to other scores from the three credit bureaus. :confused:
 
Jon, good advice. I'm sorry I told my friends to go to eloan.com for their housebuying endeavour; I should have sent them to you. :kickass:

Darn Skippy!!!!! =)

Thanks for the info, Jon... I might go out and get a new credit card to lower my overall ratio of used/available credit now. I want to improve my score a bit before we go looking for a house and thought the only way to do that was to pay my balance down.

That said, I didn't realize my credit score was as high as it was. Yippee!

Shaye

Cool deal, no worries! You had asked a question about that at the party the other day and we got distracted, probably by Su's boobs or something, so I never answered it. Hit me with an email and I'll answer it privately for ya....


the best thing you can do for your credit rating is pay your balance down. Don't forget that your credit score is also based on debt to income ratio. Any time an agency checks your credit (like, for example, when you get a new card) it'll ding your score.

The first part is true, the 2nd is not always true. If you don't have a lot of inquiries, then you're not going to have a hit. I think it's 3 per 6 month period, but they won't release that information....keeping the people poor, stupid, and in the dark, again. Inquiries are only part of that 10% misc portion of your score anyway, if your credit is good overall they're not that big of a deal usually. If you have a ton, they can do a number on you though, because it's shows a higher propensity to apply for and acquire credit.

When you're buying a house, they're going to take your debt ratio into account a lot quicker than your credit score. At least, they did for me. Also, be sure you have 20% of the purchase price to put down, or you're going to be unbelievably screwed.

Not true - you will pay a little more, but most cases you can get an affordable FHA loan, or a few other things like it, that are not nearly as onerous as people think.

Yep....either you'll have to pay PMI, which as my broker at Eloan.com said "is like pouring money down a hole," or you'll have to get an 80/20 mortgage...although a co-worker told me those were no longer being offered by lenders.

I hear about the FICO (tm) score, and that's the one I was referring to, but there are references to other scores from the three credit bureaus. :confused:

80/20s are a thing of the past for sure. No one even hardly wants to do a 2nd mortgage for 90% now, much less 100%. On the scores....there are 3 bureaus: Equifax, Trans Union, and Experian. They all use variations of the FICO scoring model. FICO means Fair Issac & Company, because that's who developed it. Beacon, FICO, etc....all basically the same thing, but re-branded by each bureau so they can say theirs is better. =)
 
Well, interesting point. When people refer to your 'credit score,' how many different answers are there?
I hear about the FICO (tm) score, and that's the one I was referring to, but there are references to other scores from the three credit bureaus. :confused:

I was actually refering to the Atlanta Area Codes of 404 and 770 ;)