Crisis of faith

For me it's circumstantial. I've long since stopped doubting my ability or motivation, but one on-going uncertainty is this scene. It's like no matter how hard we try, we literally cannot break any metal bands from this region of the world in any significant way. We've had active interest from RoadRunner Aus, which resulted in nothing.... we've tried Metal Blade, and a ton of other mid-size independent labels over the world with no luck. Most of my clients from this year have been signed to independent labels overseas, but it's just not enough. No one is cracking anything significant.

It just makes me wonder about the potential for any kind of significant career in the music industry on this island. There is a point at which incessantly trying just isn't enough, and the plain reality starts to set in.
 
I'm with Ermz on the questioning things. Being one OF THOSE bands he's speaking about, it's very hard to find the motivation to try to crack into the worldwide scene from here. And it's not easy to merely pack our bags and leave.
In Europe/ US... Jump in a fucking van and go across 5 countries/ 5 states... and back here you've managed to go through like 1 state and maybe played to a collective of 400 people. It's very disheartening.

However... hearing the great responses and the fans we are currently making overseas etc keeps giving us the hope and drive to keep going. It's tough, but we fucking LOVE what we do, and if you love it THAT much.. you just gotta throw the fucking kitchen sink at it and give it a damn good crack!
 
Oh don't get me started on the scene...


BTW, what about Parkway Drive? I'd say they made it big.
 
I haven't even gotten to the point where it's tough to find more of an audience - I can't even GET A FREAKING BAND TOGETHER. Being 14 (and a relatively good guitarist/singer/songwriter), everyone here is either my age and isn't good enough/committed enough, or is good enough, but is too old (they don't want to play with a 14 year old).
 
^ Don't want to be harsh dude but don't monopolise someone elses thread with the whole "I'm 14 thing but" thing because to be honest no one really cares about your age till you make an issue about it. In the meantime keep plugging away at it, you'll just have to bide your time, if you've got the talent something always appears eventually.

You can always move Ermin. Don't you have a good clientele from all over the world? If so make the move before you get to old.

Have to agree, if you want it so bad why not up roots? It's not like your talents wouldn't be pretty quickly in demand anywhere else?

Seems to me you've ascertained the problem anyway, why not just follow through with the solution?
 
Öwen;10039289 said:
^ Don't want to be harsh dude but don't monopolise someone elses thread with the whole "I'm 14 thing but" thing because to be honest no one really cares about your age till you make an issue about it. In the meantime keep plugging away at it, you'll just have to bide your time, if you've got the talent something always appears eventually.

I wish nobody cared about my age. But anyways, sorry if it seemed like I was "monopolizing the thread". Didn't mean to step on any toes.
 
I'm with Ermz on the questioning things. Being one OF THOSE bands he's speaking about, it's very hard to find the motivation to try to crack into the worldwide scene from here. And it's not easy to merely pack our bags and leave.
In Europe/ US... Jump in a fucking van and go across 5 countries/ 5 states... and back here you've managed to go through like 1 state and maybe played to a collective of 400 people. It's very disheartening.

I don't know about you guys, but even in Finland there is way over 200 places to gig and there is only 5 million people living here. But music export wise it's actually VERY similar with Finland, as music export wise Finland is "an island": There is a sea in the west, sea in the south, north pole in the north and Russia in the east, and each time you want to make an European tour, you have to travel +3000km just to get there and back, which makes it really expensive to make European tours.

If excluding Hanoi Rocks, Stratovarius and Amorphis (and possibly some other bands that I fail to remember right now that made big it in 1980-1990's), that is one of the reasons why there hasn't been many famous Finnish bands before the Internet got big in the late 1990's - early's 2000's (HIM, The Rasmus, Nightwish, Children of Bodom etc).

I don't have any personal experience, but I've heard from a few colleagues that still currently Eastern Europe is really horrible place to gig because the income levels are really low and most of the countries "just" got out of the Soviet rule in early 1990's, so the pay sucks, equipment and venue quality varies a lot, but in general it's pretty shitty. That is why you want to go to Central Europe, where things are a bit better.

To get from Helsinki to Hamburg, you have three travel routes: thru Baltics (~2000km) or thru Sweden (~1500km) or straight to Germany (longer time wise, but shorter travel wise). If you take the easier route via Scandinavia, you first have to travel one full day with a ferry to Sweden, then travel one full day thru Sweden and Denmark, and after that you are at Central Europe, where there is lots of places to go to. If you want to skip straight to Germany, you have to travel for 2 days (or is it 3?) to Rostock on the ferry. If you want to travel the Baltic route, you first have to travel a few hours from Helsinki to Estonia, then Latvia, Lithuania and then about after 2 days of traveling you arrive to Poland.

But yeah, Australia is still pretty much more fucked with the travel thing than we are, eh? :zombie:
 
Well, that'd depend on whether 16,000km and ~24 hours of straight flying to play in central Europe would qualify for 'fucked'. Though I guess there are people here happy to play across Indonesia, or to 20 bogans a night across rural Oz for the rest of their lives. I imagine that would be awesome too, since the distance from Melbourne to Perth (one side of the country to the other, more or less) is only 2,720km

@the whole 'up and move' thing: There are 3 main issues with that. I don't have the capital to leave and set myself up in another country. I just don't have the money to grab a place, a studio and on top of that be able to feed myself in a whole new environment. Secondly, the best I could hope for is an internship at a studio wherever I move, which basically sets me back to what I was doing 5 years ago, at 19. Thirdly, some countries obviously have the language barrier, and as much as they might have English as a second language, it can still become an issue.
 
the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

I'm in central europe, and I'd love to once have the money to get out of it for a few months.