So just a few months back I purchased my first tube amp, a 5150. Up until recently I thought that I would never get old of the tone. However when I was recording I noticed a very unbalanced mid section that I couldn't eq out. Later I started hearing it in my playing. The tone has a very "pong" kind of sound and totally lacks the beef lower mid saturation.
I really noticed this when my band who acquired a new guitarist and we played with him. He plays a dual rec with a custom fiberglass homemade cabinet. right off the bat, his tone was meatier, fatter tone with way more high end bite and absolutely no fizz.
My firs thought was my cabinet. I am using a Genz Benz G-Flex 212 with GT-75's. So I decided that I would take a look at other cabinets, and started taking a look at the recto cabs, most reviews say it sucks because its loose and not very defined, and most mentioned that the Bogner Uberkab was a much better cabinet that had more bit and tighter (and more) low end and has massive amount of crunch. Then I hear that the uberkab can sounds nasally and that the VHT FB was better. Then the opinions about what each cabinet sounds better. Some say the bogner has more bight and breathes better, some say that it doesnt cut like the FB and that the uberkab has a smooth high end unlike the FB which has more bite. So I think a majority of the talking at gearslutz and harmony central are just talking out their ass. Either way I am looking for a cabinet that has a less processed sound, has a more even mid range and has more bit, less smooth highs.
It could easily be my amp though. I know the 5150s are supposed to be smoother and more airy, and my tubes are stock from 1994, but my other amp of choice was the engl savage, but after really listening t bands like nightrage and dimmu borgir, that tone has no crunch or low end to it. Been listening to the new Behemoth and that tone is absolutely crushing, and they are using Bogner with Mesa Recto cabs, at least that was what their demos were done with and the demos sounded almost identical to the final tone. \
I should note, I just got back from a local show tonight and the first band played with a 5150 on vader cab, powerball with legacy cab, the 5150, yup no high end bite compared to the PB. The headlining band had a dual recto, not sure the cab and a Mode 4 with 1960 cab, and their tone was the most crushing tone I have ever heard, period, a couple chords were so cruchy and went together so harmoniously, it was almost as if the chord was generated by a buzzsaw like synth becuase there were no signs of clipping.
So I am really confused. Looking at maybe getting a dual recto or Ubershcall with a VHT FB cab or Uberkab, but I don't know just yet. Any recommendations or opinions about a more biting, fatter tone?
The amps I am curious in are the Uberschall and Dual rec.
Cabinets I am Interested in:
1960a
Mesa Recto
Bogner Uberkab
VHT FB
I really noticed this when my band who acquired a new guitarist and we played with him. He plays a dual rec with a custom fiberglass homemade cabinet. right off the bat, his tone was meatier, fatter tone with way more high end bite and absolutely no fizz.
My firs thought was my cabinet. I am using a Genz Benz G-Flex 212 with GT-75's. So I decided that I would take a look at other cabinets, and started taking a look at the recto cabs, most reviews say it sucks because its loose and not very defined, and most mentioned that the Bogner Uberkab was a much better cabinet that had more bit and tighter (and more) low end and has massive amount of crunch. Then I hear that the uberkab can sounds nasally and that the VHT FB was better. Then the opinions about what each cabinet sounds better. Some say the bogner has more bight and breathes better, some say that it doesnt cut like the FB and that the uberkab has a smooth high end unlike the FB which has more bite. So I think a majority of the talking at gearslutz and harmony central are just talking out their ass. Either way I am looking for a cabinet that has a less processed sound, has a more even mid range and has more bit, less smooth highs.
It could easily be my amp though. I know the 5150s are supposed to be smoother and more airy, and my tubes are stock from 1994, but my other amp of choice was the engl savage, but after really listening t bands like nightrage and dimmu borgir, that tone has no crunch or low end to it. Been listening to the new Behemoth and that tone is absolutely crushing, and they are using Bogner with Mesa Recto cabs, at least that was what their demos were done with and the demos sounded almost identical to the final tone. \
I should note, I just got back from a local show tonight and the first band played with a 5150 on vader cab, powerball with legacy cab, the 5150, yup no high end bite compared to the PB. The headlining band had a dual recto, not sure the cab and a Mode 4 with 1960 cab, and their tone was the most crushing tone I have ever heard, period, a couple chords were so cruchy and went together so harmoniously, it was almost as if the chord was generated by a buzzsaw like synth becuase there were no signs of clipping.
So I am really confused. Looking at maybe getting a dual recto or Ubershcall with a VHT FB cab or Uberkab, but I don't know just yet. Any recommendations or opinions about a more biting, fatter tone?
The amps I am curious in are the Uberschall and Dual rec.
Cabinets I am Interested in:
1960a
Mesa Recto
Bogner Uberkab
VHT FB
The low end on the Recto cab is far from unbearable, and shifts the emphasis away from those unpleasant mids in the Stiletto cab (400 Hz) down to the chunk range (not gonna guess a frequency there, but yeah, it's lower, which is good 
