Damn it, damn it, damn it, damn it...

zodi

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In less then two month I'm in the army. Guys with no hair, screaming officers, early mornings, alot of crawling in the mud, etc. On the good side, I get an assault rifle... Hm, anyone with experience of this? How horrible is it??
 
I fought my war in the kindergarten, ie. I went for the "civil-service" (a direct translation, don't know if it is the correct term). If you are so nervous about going to army, why don't you go and do something more useful and interesting instead? I have heard that the situation for the "civil-servants" in Sweden is much better than in Finland - or am I mistaken? At least in Sweden you don't need to serve over twice as long as in army (6 months in army compared to 13 months of "civil-service").

-Villain (a pacifist)
 
You should be proud and all filled with honour. You'll serve your country against imaginary enemies with worn-out material together with a bunch of neo-nazis/warheads/hillbillies - I can't imagine how it could be anything else than a fun experience. Give a few months of your youth and get nothing back, I mean, wiiie...
 
Villain said:
I fought my war in the kindergarten, ie. I went for the "civil-service" (a direct translation, don't know if it is the correct term). If you are so nervous about going to army, why don't you go and do something more useful and interesting instead? I have heard that the situation for the "civil-servants" in Sweden is much better than in Finland - or am I mistaken? At least in Sweden you don't need to serve over twice as long as in army (6 months in army compared to 13 months of "civil-service").

-Villain (a pacifist)

I told them that I wanted "civil-service", and since there are only a few hundred of those I thought they would let me go. Especially since I had tons of reasons not to do military service and my results on the tests were rather low, but for some reason they didn't let me go.
 
MP-AKK said:
You should be proud and all filled with honour. You'll serve your country against imaginary enemies with worn-out material together with a bunch of neo-nazis/warheads/hillbillies - I can't imagine how it could be anything else than a fun experience. Give a few months of your youth and get nothing back, I mean, wiiie...

Haha, that's how I feel about it :) But I know some people who thought the thing it self was pointless but atleast they met alot of nice people. I think, or hope, that they recruit different sorts people.

Otherwise I'll fake a mental breakdown or something.
 
Even though we've never really talked -i've just seen you around here-,i'm so against military service (i'm not refering to professionals in the army etc) that these news saddened me....I'm sorry you have no other option but to go ...... :( but well,since you'll have the chance to meet new people and it will only be for 6 months,do your best to pass this period as peacefully as you can...

Best wishes,
Melancholia (coffee gooooooood,army baaaaaaaaad)
 
zodi said:
In less then two month I'm in the army. Guys with no hair, screaming officers, early mornings, alot of crawling in the mud, etc. On the good side, I get an assault rifle... Hm, anyone with experience of this? How horrible is it??

How long is your service?
 
zodi said:
In less then two month I'm in the army. Guys with no hair, screaming officers, early mornings, alot of crawling in the mud, etc. On the good side, I get an assault rifle... Hm, anyone with experience of this? How horrible is it??

That means you're gonna get a hair cut. :erk:
I will light a candle for you. :p
 
wow, I didn't realize military service was mandatory over there..

and you guys aren't even under constant threat by impoverished third world nations with imaginary nukes either... heh
 
Standard service is 7,5 month here, but I have a special 10 months service. Woho! ;)

But there is no rule about cuting off any hair. I can keep it as long as it is when I enter service, but I'm not allowed to let it grow longer. I know people with much longer hair then me who didn't have any problems.

Thanks for the support. I have had half a year or so preparing me so it doesn't feel that terrible anymore. Just strange being forced away from home like this.

BiatchGuy said:
wow, I didn't realize military service was mandatory over there..

and you guys aren't even under constant threat by impoverished third world nations with imaginary nukes either... heh

That's one of the reasons why it feels so strange. There's no enemy. Even if there were a threat a bunch of 18-year olds with a few months of training and no mental preparation for real combat wouldn't help much.
 
zodi said:
Standard service is 7,5 month here, but I have a special 10 months service. Woho! ;)

But there is no rule about cuting off any hair. I can keep it as long as it is when I enter service, but I'm not allowed to let it grow longer. I know people with much longer hair then me who didn't have any problems.

Thanks for the support. I have had half a year or so preparing me so it doesn't feel that terrible anymore. Just strange being forced away from home like this.



That's one of the reasons why it feels so strange. There's no enemy. Even if there were a threat a bunch of 18-year olds with a few months of training and no mental preparation for real combat wouldn't help much.

Forgive if you feel I'm butting into your country's affairs, but I think it's essential for any country to have armed forces ready for any situation. Regarding the readiness of the Swedish military which I cannot comment on since I have no clue, I'm pretty sure neighbourig allies would be more than willing to help in case of an emergency. Thats the way I see it.
 
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Hey zodi, you have my sympathy. I have two friends from Finland who had to undergo military training. They're very different from each other: one is usually cheery and optimistic, whereas the other is cynical and not-so-positive.

Anyway, the whole experience was fantastic for the first guy. He actually enjoyed it, made tonnes of friends, and learned a lot. For the second guy, it was hell. He hated most things about the army, didn't socialize much and basically dug himself deeper into depression.

Sooo, even if you don't like it, maybe the whole experience won't be so bad if you try to see things from another perspective. Yeah, it's easier said than done. I'd probably be freaking out if I were in your shoes. But perhaps it won't be so bad! :)
 
I'm not afraid of getting killed or anything like that. But I'm not used to being forced away like this and not being able to do anything about it - it's a strange situation in a democracy.

Caelestia said:
Sooo, even if you don't like it, maybe the whole experience won't be so bad if you try to see things from another perspective. Yeah, it's easier said than done. I'd probably be freaking out if I were in your shoes. But perhaps it won't be so bad! :)

Yes.. :) I'm sure my attitude will affect it. I'm trying be positive, but I don't want to be to optimistic or cheery about it since I don't want to be changed into some weapon crazy dork.
 
zodi said:
I'm not afraid of getting killed or anything like that. But I'm not used to being forced away like this and not being able to do anything about it - it's a strange situation in a democracy.
When the democracy won't be there any more, it will be a bit too late..
It's called prevention. ;)
zodi said:
Yes.. :) I'm sure my attitude will affect it. I'm trying be positive, but I don't want to be to optimistic or cheery about it since I don't want to be changed into some weapon crazy dork.
I'm sure that if you don't want to be changed into a weapon crazy dork, it's rather unlikely that you will be turned into one, but i guess you already knew that. ;)

Well, in my country all men serve in the army, currently for 1 year. (Only very special cases don't serve, like homosexuals and nutcases, and i think those might have trouble finding a job later..). But my country is usually under danger from various neighbours..
Just to play the devil's advocate, they do say that the army turns the boys into men...
 
NicktheClayman said:
Ok, lets geat real here. It doesnt matter. Free housing, weapons, food, etrc etc. Besides what fuciing war will sweden get into?

nick still drhnk

you fucking hick :yell:

@zodi: good luck dude, make good use of them weapons :zombie:
 
I think if anyone here is a weapon crazy dork, tis I. master of the longsword and wearer of the tightest of tight pants. I shall slay thee like a yak.
Sidenote: Forsooth.
(Nods sagely and polishes his chainmail)
 
Those well hung møøse must be a big threat to Sweden's national security. :)