The Ozzman
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I don't like Zappa, enough said.
Figures that is was going to be a cop-out answer. You didn't even comment on the other stuff I said, which figures.
Do you like anything outside of metal?
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Figures that is was going to be a cop-out answer. You didn't even comment on the other stuff I said, which figures.
Do you like anything outside of metal?
Avigrus
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Hearing all of the fly on the wall clips (although short) seem to indicate some sort of return to thrash, possibly a mix between thrash and Load sounding songs. Definitely looking forward to this album.
poundingmetal74
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Yeah, I agree. The best art comes from the soul. However: Metallica already tried that when they wrote St. Anger and we all heard how that turned out.
I think a major element to great music is desperation and/or the need to prove something. Skid Row needed to prove they weren't like every other hair band and we got Slave. Metallica needed to prove there was life-after Cliff and we got Justice. Guns N Roses needed to prove they existed..... you see where this is going.
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lordcatfish
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New song debuted at Ozzfest called Cyanide. Some Youtube vids (there'll probably be more to come, these are the only two available at the moment). They're not of the whole song.
Shorter but better quality.
Longer but worse quality.
They also played the Mercyful Fate medley with King Diamond on vocals.
Shorter but better quality.
Longer but worse quality.
They also played the Mercyful Fate medley with King Diamond on vocals.
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Progressive rock and metal, and not all of it (a bit of jazz fusion but only because Tony MacAlpine plays in it). I like what I like, I don't care what people say, it's my music I pay for it so it better be what I like, don't care about names, critics or media fuzz.
Thanks to lord catfish for the videos, sadly considering they're a bootleg and all that jazz I don't find the song interesting or appealing per se. I will wait until it leaks the album and donwloading it, then I will make my decision, but considering I don't even like "Metallica" (the black album), I doubt anything from this album will make me buy it.
P.S. Btw I only answer to what I found valuable to answer to.
NP: Exciter - "In Mortal Fear"
The Ozzman
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So you're saying that music shouldn't come from the soul and that it's completely driven by fan reaction?
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Just for the sake or argument (it's funny to discuss with you) I recall a musician (in metal) once said: when we play original music is to satisfy the fans, when we play covers is to satisfy ourselves.That was in the context on the interviewer asking them about playing covers or a covers album (not sure was long ago).
Anyway, music of course should come from the heart of the musician but there's something definitively wrong if you don't care about the fans' tastes and preferences. I stopped with many bands (Metallica, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest) because of that and I still following others because of the opposite, because they care about the fans (Motorhead, Saxon, Testament).
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No-Mercy
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wyvern...im just going to pretend you didnt have iron maiden on a list of bands that stopped caring about fans preferences. hahah.
but in seriousness and on topic, i think theres a difference between caring what your fans think, and purposely writing (or trashing songs) for their ears.
of course starting out its what you love, as you further your career i believe the fans have greater opinions.
if your first album is for "potential" fans, i think thats incredibly stupid.
but i agree, once your around long enough to have fans that have stuck with you and will buy your next album no matter what- their opinions matter more.
but still not to the extent where the music the artists create must be altered to suite the listeners.
also, in many cases sometimes the artists just have more talent, influences, or ideas they want to express in the same way they have been expressing themselves throughout their lives: their music. just because every fan might not like some changes, i think, is FAR from meaning the band no longer cares about what the fans want to hear the most.
i know my bands music comes from us and is very meaningful to us, each piece. while we of course take critiques and criticism, i encourage that, we do not write something or take something out because a fan(s) wants us to. in the end, its not their music.
i care about people who enjoy what i do, i really appreciate that and try to give them the most back. but i will not alter what i love to do in order for them to love what i do.
id be playing and writing music with or without them. what they determine is my profit, success, sense of achievement, and audience size.
but in seriousness and on topic, i think theres a difference between caring what your fans think, and purposely writing (or trashing songs) for their ears.
of course starting out its what you love, as you further your career i believe the fans have greater opinions.
if your first album is for "potential" fans, i think thats incredibly stupid.
but i agree, once your around long enough to have fans that have stuck with you and will buy your next album no matter what- their opinions matter more.
but still not to the extent where the music the artists create must be altered to suite the listeners.
also, in many cases sometimes the artists just have more talent, influences, or ideas they want to express in the same way they have been expressing themselves throughout their lives: their music. just because every fan might not like some changes, i think, is FAR from meaning the band no longer cares about what the fans want to hear the most.
i know my bands music comes from us and is very meaningful to us, each piece. while we of course take critiques and criticism, i encourage that, we do not write something or take something out because a fan(s) wants us to. in the end, its not their music.
i care about people who enjoy what i do, i really appreciate that and try to give them the most back. but i will not alter what i love to do in order for them to love what i do.
id be playing and writing music with or without them. what they determine is my profit, success, sense of achievement, and audience size.
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How to put it delicately? Yes I do believe so since 1988 at least for this fan. I know people that got so disappointed by "Load" that they even begun to find cracks in the previous albums. To me that's stupid, just because a band change their sound and blow my fandom away that doesn't mean I'm not going to love the old material. That happened to me with Iron Maiden a bit with NPFTD and definitively more after DOD, Judas Priest just shattered the stained glass witn "Nostradamus", Metallica (in question) did it with the s/t album.
Will I still play "Piece Of Mind", "Defenders Of The Fight" and "Ride The Lightning" til death?, yes I will. Why because that music appeals to me as a fan, and the music they're doing now does not appeal to me, hence my money is kept in my wallet for any other band that still want to deliver to me as I like...and there are plenty out there.
I think is a pretty good deal, the musicians make the music they want but my money goes to the ones that make it for me
http://www.witches-brew.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1605
No-Mercy
Feanor
yea i figured it was more of a personal choice which is why i said it jokingly.
though i guess it deffered from the rest of my post, lol.
though i guess it deffered from the rest of my post, lol.
The Ozzman
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How the fuck did Priest break the glass with Nostradamus? What the fuck else could they do other than re-hash of their old material?
I wouldn't have minded if they had done something along the lines of a heavier Angel of Retribution, but I'm not complaining.
I wouldn't have minded if they had done something along the lines of a heavier Angel of Retribution, but I'm not complaining.
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