Death metal mixed and mastered

[ExDown]

Hey there guys, I'm new at this forum but so far it's been a great help!!
I just finnished the recording, mixing and mastering of my bands new song "Pleaded Outburst". Oh by the way, the band's name is "Ethereal".

It's recorded in our rehearsal place with a shitty computer, Delta card and über-cheap Behringer mixer.
What we used was; 5150 on guitars with one Samson condensator mic + sm57. Don't really remember the position of the mic's (i'm really new at recording) . For drums we used Pearl Export set with a Tama metal snare (100% original, no triggers. Not so happy with the result though) and the kick 100% drumagog Andy Sneap sample. Bass was just line in and then put Ampeg VST on that.
For vocals we used AKG perception 100 then compressed with SSL compressor VST.

This is the 2:nd mix/master, so I'm just looking for tips for the next recording cuz I really don't have the time to re-mix the song.

Here's the sample anyway;

http://www.upload.celtiaproductions.co.uk/uploads/ethereal_pleaded2007.mp3

Hope you like it, and for my first recording check the other songs on the Myspace player at http://myspace.com/etherealdeathmetal

CHEERZ!!

 

[Chryst Krispies]

Pretty cool song. I like the band.

 

[StefTD]

Really dig that song, sounds good and I like the style of the band.

 

[J.DavisNJ]

Sounds awesome! Great job really. Any more details on the guitars? Cabinet/speakers, etc.?? boosted?

-Joe

 

[ExDown]

Sounds awesome! Great job really. Any more details on the guitars? Cabinet/speakers, etc.?? boosted?

-Joe

Great that you like it! We'll, gotta brainstorm this one...
The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with G12T75's. The Samson mic was a Q1 i think. Used Arch Enemy presets on the 5150, may have cranked the distortion a bit too much on the recording.

Lowcut from 80 hz, boosted one dB or two around 110 hz, 4 khz and 8 khz.
Noob settings anyone?

 

[J.DavisNJ]

Great that you like it! We'll, gotta brainstorm this one...
The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with G12T75's. The Samson mic was a Q1 i think. Used Arch Enemy presets on the 5150, may have cranked the distortion a bit too much on the recording.

Lowcut from 80 hz, boosted one dB or two around 110 hz, 4 khz and 8 khz.
Noob settings anyone?

Cool! you definitely got good results there.

-Joe

 

[Remy_5150]

Dude, sounds good to me, only suggestion I have is changing mic positions on the drums and guitars and trying to find one that sounds better than what you are doing now...but this sounds fucking solid as is. Good job.

 

[ExDown]

Dude, sounds good to me, only suggestion I have is changing mic positions on the drums and guitars and trying to find one that sounds better than what you are doing now...but this sounds fucking solid as is. Good job.

Yse, I know. That would be the ultimate. our problem for the moment is that we record in the same room that we play. So, we don't have a controlroom.. which really makes that hard.

 

[DFGeneer]

That mix sounds perfect to me!

 

[ExDown]

That mix sounds perfect to me!

"Perfect" might be too good but thanks !

 

[Cyanide_Anima]

heavy as fuck, i like it! sounds like a good mix man! \m/

 

[jamiered]

yeah man you should definately be happy with yourself for this one; howd you do the vocals ie. mics and did you eq, compress, limit etc?

 

[ExDown]

yeah man you should definately be happy with yourself for this one; howd you do the vocals ie. mics and did you eq, compress, limit etc?

Thanks man!
The vocals was recorded with a AKG Perception 100 (about 120-140$ i think)
Then SSL stereocompressor with "Lead vox" presets, then just messed around a bit with that. Lowcut around 80 hz there aswell and cut 2 db around that horrible 500hz area. Then added delay + some reverb.

 

[Gustavo_Loureiro]

very nice mix/mast/song/etc.. congrats!!!

 

[jamiered]

Thanks man!
The vocals was recorded with a AKG Perception 100 (about 120-140$ i think)
Then SSL stereocompressor with "Lead vox" presets, then just messed around a bit with that. Lowcut around 80 hz there aswell and cut 2 db around that horrible 500hz area. Then added delay + some reverb.

sweet whats my problem after i posted that i realized you already stated some of that in your original post. did you purchase the SSL compressor? or did you get the free download because ive heard good things about it for working with screams but the free one doesnt work in my digital performer. i was having more trouble before but i was pretty happy with this limiter i found that works pretty well but i know it could be better. my band recorded a few years back and the engineer used some sort of compressor/distortion and it sounded pretty sweet but i dont know what he used so ive just been trying different things. i want to try that SSL.

 

[ExDown]

sweet whats my problem after i posted that i realized you already stated some of that in your original post. did you purchase the SSL compressor? or did you get the free download because ive heard good things about it for working with screams but the free one doesnt work in my digital performer. i was having more trouble before but i was pretty happy with this limiter i found that works pretty well but i know it could be better. my band recorded a few years back and the engineer used some sort of compressor/distortion and it sounded pretty sweet but i dont know what he used so ive just been trying different things. i want to try that SSL.

A friend of mine got the free download so i tried it out. Must say it doesn't work perfectly, and it's a real CPU hog. Although I love the presets in the VST, makes it all so much easier..

 

[Djabthrash]

great song, great mix.

IMO :

-a bit too much gain on the guitars, as you stated yourself

-guitars sound a bit too trebly/fizzy IMO, how about putting a bit less presence next time ? It lacks of some body also (just a little).
(p.s: i'm not a huge fan of this 5150 tone, but i've heard bigger sounding 5150 tones on this forum already) (maybe it's due to your post EQing also, i don't know)

-the drum sound is almost perfect for this genre.

anyway for it sounds great

next time with better amp settings and a better mic placement you're gonna kick ass !

 

[ExDown]

great song, great mix.

IMO :

-a bit too much gain on the guitars, as you stated yourself

-guitars sound a bit too trebly/fizzy IMO, how about putting a bit less presence next time ? It lacks of some body also (just a little).
(p.s: i'm not a huge fan of this 5150 tone, but i've heard bigger sounding 5150 tones on this forum already) (maybe it's due to your post EQing also, i don't know)

-the drum sound is almost perfect for this genre.

anyway for it sounds great

next time with better amp settings and a better mic placement you're gonna kick ass !

Ok thanks man!
Finally some thougts of the guitar sound. We may have used too much presence, but the G12T75's doesn't really help either when it comes to fizzyness We'll try some vintage 30's or greenback's on the next recording!

Great that you liked the drum sound, but as I said before; not so happy with the snare (only used one mic there, no bottom)

 

[Djabthrash]

Ok thanks man!
Finally some thougts of the guitar sound. We may have used too much presence, but the G12T75's doesn't really help either when it comes to fizzyness We'll try some vintage 30's or greenback's on the next recording!

Great that you liked the drum sound, but as I said before; not so happy with the snare (only used one mic there, no bottom)

Ok maybe that can explain the slight fizzyness/untighness of the guitar sound.

i just listened to the tracks on myspace and it kicks ass. Production wise and the songs also. It reminds me of some INSISION (they're from Sweden also, am i right ?) stuff, which i dig.

The "demo 2007" tracks are almost perfect production-wise, and the guitars do not have the flaws mentioned above, but anyway next time you know what to do to have a kickass guitar sound like this.

 

[ExDown]

Ok maybe that can explain the slight fizzyness/untighness of the guitar sound.

i just listened to the tracks on myspace and it kicks ass. Production wise and the songs also. It reminds me of some INSISION (they're from Sweden also, am i right ?) stuff, which i dig.

The "demo 2007" tracks are almost perfect production-wise, and the guitars do not have the flaws mentioned above, but anyway next time you know what to do to have a kickass guitar sound like this.

Yes, the "demo 2007" was my bands first real recording, and my first mix/master... What we did differently on that one with the guitars was; less gain and probably different micing. The thing is that we don't have a control room, all is recorded in the same room so we don't have the advantage of finding the ultimate mic positioning. Although I don't think the drums aren't as good on "demo 2007", sounds too soft in the mix and the snare is like 75% trigg

... and yes, Insision are from Stockholm, Sweden.