What do you guys prefer just to add some depth to your soloing? What are some of your favorite pedals? I'm looking at so many my head is spinning. Maybe some fresh opinions will help. Just looking for a pedal, not a rack mount unit.
Delay vs. Reverb vs. Echo
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noble savage
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I have experimented a bit with this and my personal favorite setup is a boss CE-5 Chorus and DS-1 distortion pedal. Chorus adds a very nice "open" sound. I haven't delved too much into delay/reverb etc but I have played this pedal http://www.bossus.com/index.asp?pg=1&tmp=121 Boss dd-20 and it has many great features you may find usefull.
While I like all in one pedals such as Digitech GNX3 they have a certain artificial sound to them. I would say stick with boss single pedals. I have been using them for a long time and found that they sound the best.
While I like all in one pedals such as Digitech GNX3 they have a certain artificial sound to them. I would say stick with boss single pedals. I have been using them for a long time and found that they sound the best.
I find Boss pedals to be very thin and artificial on the whole. They're well made and reliable, but never very organic. IMO, of course...millions of others disagree.
I find the majority of delay and reverb pedals to be overkill...I like simplicity...after all...how many settings are you going to use in reality...the rest is just for toying.
Kenneth R.
Cináed
I feel exactly the opposite. Boss sounds a lot more organic than stuff by Digitech or Line-6.
Personally, I use a delay (either on my amp or on my GT-6 if I'm using it, or in software on recordings) with a pretty muted feedback level, but several (usually 2-3) echoes. I'm also a fan of very light reverb.
Personally, I use a delay (either on my amp or on my GT-6 if I'm using it, or in software on recordings) with a pretty muted feedback level, but several (usually 2-3) echoes. I'm also a fan of very light reverb.
If we're speaking just in terms of soloing, I'd go for a little bit of delay (if anything). TC has a really cool model out now called the Nova Delay. It's a bit pricy, but if the features are as cool in person as they are on paper and it lives up to other TC products, I certainly wouldn't mind picking one up.
http://www.tcelectronic.com/NovaDelay.asp
http://www.tcelectronic.com/NovaDelay.asp
ABQShredHead
©1970
Reverb is rather venue-dependent. I would hit up the delay. I think Ken gave some good guidelines.
CantoX
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I almost never use any reverb or delay, but on occasion I may use just a very little bit of reverb during a solo, or during something clean. Chorus+slight reverb on clean sounds gorgeous.
I would really love to try the new eventide delay pedal, I bet that thing is a monster at it.
I would really love to try the new eventide delay pedal, I bet that thing is a monster at it.
stomp boxes must be better then they used to be, all players I knew gave their pedals away when we got channel switching amps and rack mounts. I bought my Alesis midi verb in 88 or 89, its an excellent reverb/delay/chorus/flange unit even today. Had many usefull sound tools I used. The chorus for clean was phenominal. Had a triggered flange I used for one intro. Various time delays, some taps, gated reverb, reverse gate which is more for maybe a snare. one reverb that lasts forever and is great for those ghostly haunting mood developers. A handful of other toys. I use no effects for crunch riffs because I like them to cut, but I do have one ultra fast delay I use at 100% that gives me an extremely articulate trigger for pedalin' riffs. Since I bought the SGX 2000 Im not using the Midi Verb at this time. I know the Alesis multi verb was far superior to the midi verb and know people that still use them. I have the spring reverbs in my amps switchable but only run them around 3 or 4 for solos or clean stuff, off for riffs.
Frankly I just cant see the stomp box thing, for the price of 3 or 4 of them... or less and you can have yourself a fully programable, switchable high quality multi effects unit running through your effects loop and not sound like your playing through a tin can. Stomp boxes are like throwing your money away a little bit at a time and never being quite content. Not to mention the "battery thing". A quality multi unit is a one time deal and when your no longer happy with your sound, you just go in and change the parameters. Electronics have changed though and I just havent tried any of the new stuff... or felt a need to.
Thats my 250 bucks worth
Frankly I just cant see the stomp box thing, for the price of 3 or 4 of them... or less and you can have yourself a fully programable, switchable high quality multi effects unit running through your effects loop and not sound like your playing through a tin can. Stomp boxes are like throwing your money away a little bit at a time and never being quite content. Not to mention the "battery thing". A quality multi unit is a one time deal and when your no longer happy with your sound, you just go in and change the parameters. Electronics have changed though and I just havent tried any of the new stuff... or felt a need to.
Thats my 250 bucks worth
ABQShredHead
©1970
I'm a bit like you with not knowing what technology is like these days. I'm old school. But one complaint of the less-expensive rack units is that you can't change the order of the effects. Although the sounds are great, the flexibility is a little less than desired. For that kind of flexibility, you'd need to pay upwards of $600-1000. You can get quite a few pedals for that much dough. I would use the TCE G-Major and G-Force as a primary example. The lower-priced G-Major is wonderful (I have one), but to get the whalloping quality and flexibility the G-Force is, what, three times the cost of a G-Major? Not that I'm disagreeing with the assessment - I too like rackmounts over pedals - but there are some snags to everything. And the growth flexibility inherent in the stomp boxes is another great plus.
I agree with you about Digitech and Line 6, but still don't like Boss...some old Boss stuff is good.
I really like a lot of the old Ibanez/Maxon 80's pedals...very natural sounding...I had the DL10 Delay and the SC10 Stereo Chorus.
Kenneth R.
Cináed
I'm leaning towards the EH #1 Echo...nice and simple...reasonable price...no negative reviews that I've seen. I don't need any fancy delay...just something to fatten my sound and add a little atmosphere. I've always been a reverb guy, but my new amp won't have built in reverb.
Altitudes
Stay Frosty
Reverb and a little chorus makes for a nice clean tone. A tad of delay to a distorted lead sound adds depth nicely.
I use a little reverb on my Peavey Stereo Chorus amp for both clean and lead. Sublime. I don't like echo or delay or digital reverbs for my style of playing, it just ruins it. Anyway, a lot of guitarists use a lot of delay to mask their lack of fluidity. I use reverb cause it sounds cool.
Peaveys always come with a nice reverb.
Just got my Roland BC-30 2X10 today...delivered by DHL in excellent shape. This amp is pristine...the guy must have never used it...it's like brand new...sounds magnificent...especially the clean channel...wish it had reverb and wish it had a separate EQ for clean and lead like the BC-60, but with older amps you have to take what you can get...the condition makes up for it...it's a pretty little thang. I paid about 275...not bad considering it looks brand new. Maybe the best non modelling solid state I've heard.
I also found a cool analog echo...the DOD FX96...it emulates a tape echo...very nice. It's about 10 years old but I found this one brand new in my local music shop...paid 40 bucks...I've seen them on ebay for more than twice that well used. It adds just the right amount of ambience I need with no noticable change to the tone and it's very quiet. I'm happy.
So, my setup now is guitar into Marshall ED-1 compressor(this pedal is a sleeper...amazing bang for the buck!), Tonebone Classic, DOD FX96 into the Roland BC-30. A very solid setup. I dig it.
I don't try to hide my lack of fluidity...I flaunt it!
Dude...those Peaveys are amazing clean, but distorted...not so good...do you use an OD or Distortion? I think they did a great job with the distortion once they introduced the Transtube technology, but I had the Classic VTX and the Express 112 solid state Peaveys...great amps...powerful, dependable, nice features...built like tanks...but that supersat distortion was very bad.
I just nabbed a late 80's Ibanez DDL10 Delay 2 for 53 bucks on ebay! I've seen these going for well over 100 bucks and this is supposed to be near mint. I love the late 80's Ibanez digital delays...especially the MIJ stuff...they're an awesome bang for the buck...all the benefit of digital with the warmth of analog...good stuff! I'll see how it sounds and maybe sell the DOD FX96...we'll see...they were both such bargains maybe I'll keep them both. I will eventually pick up a reverb pedal...any suggestions?
Got the Ibanez pedal last night...looks brand new...MIJ...up to 900ms...perfect for me. You really can't beat the tone and feel of these pedals...who need a 2 minute delay, anyway? I'm keeping the DOD too...it was so cheap and it analog and it has that cool tape delay emulation thing going for it too. Both pedals have a very different feel.
Finally checked out the BBE Sonic Stomp pedal version of the Sonic Maximizer. I don't see the point in this pedal at all...it seems a graphic eq would be more useful. I don't get it.
I agree with you. Peavey transistor amps are awesome on clean, but the distortion is ugly especially that supersat one.schenkadere said:
However, the way it colors the distortions of pedalboards or stompboxes leaves me speechless. For lead sounds, I go through the PODxt live (amp: peavey 5150 or marshall preamp) then in front of the Peavey amp and I add a 2 to 3 reverb to it. For the clean sounds, I only use the POD as a compressor and use the reverb and chorus on the amp. My strat produces such an amazing clean...As well as very particular distorted sounds.
Peavey's reverbs FTW.
