Originally posted by Eld
Understandable. As for the top 50 - I think you and I can agree that popularity really counts for shit.
And I was quite bothered by you saying Isis has b grade musicianship. I don't know what you consider good musicianship, but to me it's certainly not being able to play a virtuoso solo, or a solo at all for that matter, or a technical riff, whatever. Isis are all amazing musicians. They dominate Opeth as far as musicianship goes, but Opeth are indeed great. Also, the songs as well as the album itself are incredibly cohesive, which puts Isis up even higher.
Vocally, it's another instrument. I understand if somebody doesn't like it. It's more of a dynamic to the different sections. Death metal vocals are downright abrasive also. The two styles here are just different.
It's not something everyone will like. If it bores you, that's how it is. I just find it funny when people rip on a perfectly good band when they're reasons are faulty, instead of just saying they don't like them. That goes for a lot of people on this board, or everywhere.
As for "The Sham Mirrors", don't really know what to tell you. It's very unique, so either you like it or you don't. Amazing musicianship, including the magnificent song writing. I really like Arcturus' approach. I'll just leave it at that.