Does anyone ever triple track at all here?

[Harry Hughes]

I've been going through heaps of old threads, and I see no mention of this.
Is it cool to say, pan one guitar track extreme left, one extreme right, and say for a chorus to add dynamics, put in a 3rd track centered?
Or is that gay around here or something?
I've got no idea.

 

[-Gavin-]

Seems wierd for high gain stuff if you already have a bass, kick, snare and vocal going down the middle....

 

[Put]

I end up triple tracking a lot.
Hard left and right and a less distorted and differently eq'd ( depending on the situation ) one in the middle.
But I do that troughout the whole track and not only chorusses.

For such parts where i want soem more dynamics I often put in some crazy synth or whatever.

http://www.myspace.com/putsonics


the first track, at 0:55 , i put a synth in

 

[ahjteam]

I only pan a lead guitar at the center and double/quad tracked rhythm guitars to the sides

 

[KeithTidd]

i do it alot. It's a good middle ground between double and quad tracking. If the middle channel gets in the way of vox, i sidechain a comp to it so it ducks alittle under the vox.

 

[Put]

i do it alot. It's a good middle ground between double and quad tracking. If the middle channel gets in the way of vox, i sidechain a comp to it so it ducks alittle under the vox.

can you explain to me how the comp gives you the desired effect in these situations?

Still learning

 

[crosstalk]

I've heard of guys doing it during the chorus and what not. Doesn't seem like there'd be much room though, especially during a big chorus. Maybe it's a subtle thing.

I normally like a backing guitar going during the chorus; playing something like octaves, not lower notes. I recently started double tracking these parts though so I can pan them a little wider.

This 3rd guitar technique would probably work better in genre's other than metal. Ones that have a little room left.

 

[Harry Hughes]

Seems wierd for high gain stuff if you already have a bass, kick, snare and vocal going down the middle....

True I guess, but my plan for vocal stuff I want to work on is 2 tracks,one track totally left the other totally right and for dynamics quad tracked sections of each track being 80/20 and 20/80 or whatever.
For instrumental stuff though, where you don't have vocals down the middle, I imagine you've got a bit more room to work with putting a 3rd track in there.
I don't necessarily always play metal, that's the thing too, I should have mentioned that sometimes I use some lighter gain on the guitars for more "rock" than metal".

 

[Melodeath]

I've been interested in trying triple tracking ever since I read Entombed did it on Left Hand Path, haha

Haven't had the opportunity, though

 

[Lasse Lammert]

nah, don't see the benefits.
if you triple track you could also 4 track and have a wider stereo image, less cluttered center etc.
It didn't bother me on Enemies Of Reality though (Sneap mix)...but that's a Sneap mix, so it doesn't really say much

 

[KeithTidd]

http://files.getdropbox.com/u/561383/ATP - false hope.mp3

here's a mix i'm working on. We tracked 3 tracks of rhythm gtr. L and R is 1 guitarist, the middle is the other guitarist.

 

[NNotN-ENN]

http://files.getdropbox.com/u/561383/ATP - false hope.mp3

here's a mix i'm working on. We tracked 3 tracks of rhythm gtr. L and R is 1 guitarist, the middle is the other guitarist.

No offense, but that sounds really awkward to my ears. Maybe I've just been trained on panned guitars though...

 

[greyskull]

who are you? Randy Rhoads?

 

[JoshSylosis]

Seems like it'd be a bad idea if you've got any harmonized riffs. You'd have to just pick one of the guitar parts to go with for the 3rd track which would sound a bit uneven.

 

[dan weapon]

I thought this thread was going to be about triple tracking each side!

 

[gabriel g.]

I´m fine with double tracking EACH side=quad trackicking....

 

[Harry Hughes]

who are you? Randy Rhoads?

I actually find the triple tracked sound of solos to sound annoying Talking about rhythms here I guess

 

[KeithTidd]

No offense, but that sounds really awkward to my ears. Maybe I've just been trained on panned guitars though...

you're entitled to your opinion, but I don't see how it's awkward. Think of it like this:

gtr 1 has 2 takes: one only in the left ch. and one only in the right.

gtr 2 is 1 take only down the center, in otherwords it is equally in the left and right ch.

no matter how you listen to the mix, you're essentially getting gtr 2 in the left and right. If both guitarists harmonize in some way it doesn't draw your attention away from the center of the mix in the same way it would be if i hard panned them to separate sides.

 

[Melodeath]

http://files.getdropbox.com/u/561383/ATP - false hope.mp3

here's a mix i'm working on. We tracked 3 tracks of rhythm gtr. L and R is 1 guitarist, the middle is the other guitarist.

How did you do the harmonies?

edit: ok you just asnwered it while i posted this lol

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

I thought this thread was going to be about triple tracking each side!

+1

I "triple track" all the time, sounds way better than 2 tracks and allows for more creativity.