Just noticed, that there is no post about this...can't wait to try this!
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Drumatom - just wow
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I don't think bleed is that much of a problem. It makes for a nice glue across the tracks I believe.
JoeMeek12397
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^ Yeah, if the tracks are recorded well, bleed can be your best friend.
This idea seems cools, but it also just seems like a gate/expander (depending on how hard you're using it) and eq. That being said, I'm always interested in trying gear/plugs.
This idea seems cools, but it also just seems like a gate/expander (depending on how hard you're using it) and eq. That being said, I'm always interested in trying gear/plugs.
Megin
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TonyS. I would be more happy and impressed if you would release good metalbass profiles for Kemper. Anyway this is a quite interesting plugin.
Anyway this is a quite interesting plugin.
TonyS. I would be more happy and impressed if you would release good metalbass profiles for Kemper.
Hehe...comming in the next weeks!
TRUIE
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It's not an expander/gate at all, in theory.
It's a complex offline algorithm that needs all the drum tracks to work.
For example I think it uses your toms tracks to remove tom bleed on your snare tracks...etc (but I'm sure it's more complex than that).
It might be useful to attenuate a bit the bleed on some tracks when needed (mainly on kick, snare, toms), or to completely remove the bleed for parallel processing or before using a sample replacement plugin, for better detection.
Still not convinced about the audio quality though ; the 1st video they posted was great, but on the 2nd one (the one in this thread) we can hear a lot of artifacts and high end attenuation on the snare track when pushed hard.
I hope they're still improving their algorithm before releasing, wait and see...
It's a complex offline algorithm that needs all the drum tracks to work.
For example I think it uses your toms tracks to remove tom bleed on your snare tracks...etc (but I'm sure it's more complex than that).
It might be useful to attenuate a bit the bleed on some tracks when needed (mainly on kick, snare, toms), or to completely remove the bleed for parallel processing or before using a sample replacement plugin, for better detection.
Still not convinced about the audio quality though ; the 1st video they posted was great, but on the 2nd one (the one in this thread) we can hear a lot of artifacts and high end attenuation on the snare track when pushed hard.
I hope they're still improving their algorithm before releasing, wait and see...
ze kink
THE BLACK WIZARDS
Yeah, you can clearly hear that it sucks out some top on the snare and floor tom, but it still sounds very good compared to basic gating. It sounds like it actually sucks out the bleed quite a bit, though I wonder how much creeps back when you compress the hits.
I've been a fan of doubling a snare track and then gating the other one really heavily, then adding a lot of compression and possibly distortion to that one, and then just expanding and lightly compressing the main snare. It occasionally works if you're not using any samples. I think Kurt Ballou mentioned doing something similar in his Tape-OP interview. This could work really well for that.
I've been a fan of doubling a snare track and then gating the other one really heavily, then adding a lot of compression and possibly distortion to that one, and then just expanding and lightly compressing the main snare. It occasionally works if you're not using any samples. I think Kurt Ballou mentioned doing something similar in his Tape-OP interview. This could work really well for that.
With so many people using plug-ins like Drumagog and Trigger, is there much need for this program? It certainly seems cool and is definitely an interesting idea, but with so much "performance enhancement" being done to drums these days, are many people keeping the original raw takes?
JoeMeek12397
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When I'm gating/expanding drums I usually use a sample to trigger the gate/expander or, at least, automate their parameters. A gate/expander (with SC) and eq can get you pretty fucking close to this idea, and you have control over the roll off. I'm not knocking this product, and it does seem like it could save time, but you might be trading time for a bit of quality. Again, I'm not knocking this, just throwing my opinion, and I WOULD like to try this.
That's what they're trying to accomplish; creating less issues to stop you from keeping the real performance.
JHA
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This indicates it uses some form of FFT analysis and if so it's nothing new. Cool Edit used this method in 1995 for noise reduction.
This recording has been processed with Drumatom. No gates or triggers happening at all. Sounds really good! (if you don't like the supertight non-dynamic sound that is)
This sounds much more open and dynamic..
https://soundcloud.com/jocke-skog/blackest-of-blood-teaser-01
/AnotherBob
This sounds much more open and dynamic..
https://soundcloud.com/jocke-skog/blackest-of-blood-teaser-01
/AnotherBob
