Dudes in bands how do you take care of BS?

My band has no drummer which pisses me off. In America you have all these dipshits who have no talent and just play guitar to get chicks. Drummers are so rare.

About taking care of BS, get rid of the person causing it. Its hard in my band, because this guy who halts stuff is my friend and all... I think I'll just make a song and have them play it, once I get my drumset.
 
no, Democracy usually never works... you spin in circles and the best songs and ideas get diluted. Benevolent dictatorship, or Creative Junta.... the latter meaning the most creative, both in terms of music and ideas in general, control things. i will never again be in a democracy with a band... even if that means i'm one of the ones with diminished "say so". sorry, it's just no good to give, say, your bass player... who while he's a great guy and excellent player/performer... but can't write to save his life and thinks he can and is proud of his amateurish efforts, an equal say in how anything at all musical goes. Or to let a singer, who while he has a great voice and stage presence and writes killer melodies... but sux ballz at writing lyrics but he really really wants too even though they come off like 6th Grade D&D horseshit, have an equal say in lyrics... fuggedabowdit. i generally don't like working with democracies as a producer either... gimme a band with one main guy, that's also the primary song-writer (usually works out that way by default anyway) and things can get done. i have no time to sit and wait for a band to argue about something in the studio..... main guy says "it's gonna be like this", hopefully in consensus with me as producer, and off we go. it's very, very rare for everyone in a band to be equally bad-ass at all things and to all be on the same page at all times.
 
Well I was thinking of starting such a topic because I am having such problems with my band.Well the solution I found is that you have to gather all and say that WE ALL HAVE THE SAME PURPOSE AND THAT WE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR THE BEST FOR OUR BAND.If everyones agree to this and then you discuss with each person telling him his possitive and negative aspects I think it will be fine .Being in a band was never an easy thing to do.What do you think?
 
Well I was thinking of starting such a topic because I am having such problems with my band.Well the solution I found is that you have to gather all and say that WE ALL HAVE THE SAME PURPOSE AND THAT WE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR THE BEST FOR OUR BAND.If everyones agree to this and then you discuss with each person telling him his possitive and negative aspects I think it will be fine .Being in a band was never an easy thing to do.What do you think?

Problem is: most of the time people are in the band for the chicks (and/or local notoriety) and not for the band/music ...
 
Problem is: most of the time people are in the band for the chicks (and/or local notoriety) and not for the band/music ...

yes I agree in a way.band members most times tend ta talk and promote their band than playing and rehearsing.Now with myspace and shit is more important to try and have more friends than master your instrument.Fuck.....
 
no, Democracy usually never works... you spin in circles and the best songs and ideas get diluted. Benevolent dictatorship, or Creative Junta.... the latter meaning the most creative, both in terms of music and ideas in general, control things. i will never again be in a democracy with a band... even if that means i'm one of the ones with diminished "say so". sorry, it's just no good to give, say, your bass player... who while he's a great guy and excellent player/performer... but can't write to save his life and thinks he can and is proud of his amateurish efforts, an equal say in how anything at all musical goes. Or to let a singer, who while he has a great voice and stage presence and writes killer melodies... but sux ballz at writing lyrics but he really really wants too even though they come off like 6th Grade D&D horseshit, have an equal say in lyrics... fuggedabowdit. i generally don't like working with democracies as a producer either... gimme a band with one main guy, that's also the primary song-writer (usually works out that way by default anyway) and things can get done. i have no time to sit and wait for a band to argue about something in the studio..... main guy says "it's gonna be like this", hopefully in consensus with me as producer, and off we go. it's very, very rare for everyone in a band to be equally bad-ass at all things and to all be on the same page at all times.


Thats very true. My friend rejects my ideas because he doesn't like them. He says I shouldn't write lyrics because... I actually don't know any reason. I guess he feels like he's not part of the band if hes the keyboardist and I'm the lead guitarist, vocalist, and lyricist. He also says he should be the one singing and whenever we want to cover a song he says he should sing but when we ask him to sing he laughs and says "nah".
 
My bassist left because he thought he wasn't good enough. Ugh.

My band would never do Rap Metal.

So I want to form a new band. Chances are I won't find a Rapper who would do Rap Metal.
 
My band has always been even more than a democracy. If one person doesn't agree on something, we either convince them, or not do it. This way, everyone is always 100% happy with what we're doing. There may be things someone wants to do that the others don't, but nobody has to do anything they don't want to do. It's worked out wonderfully for the past 5 and a half years. There are only three of us though.
 
I got a question: How do you guys, deal with members that play completely shit-faced and are too drunk to stand, nevermind Hold a verse/riff together?
 
That thought had crossed my mind, but what if they're the only founding member left and 2nd most contributer to the song writing?
I don't really want to turn it into a 'Zao' or 'As Blood Runs Black' with no original members or kicking out an important guy.

His playing is pathetic but we keep him 'cuz his riffs are cool.
 
A bottle of good whiskey, cheap whiskey if your band sucks, and you can either take a serious sip and throw it across the room when someone disagrees then state your point and walk out pissed, or pass it around until they're all your buddies.
 
I got a question: How do you guys, deal with members that play completely shit-faced and are too drunk to stand, nevermind Hold a verse/riff together?

I know being in a band is a great experience and you can have alot of fun, but you have to look at your band as your potential future and as a business as well. If your members are getting shitty before gigs and cant function eventually people are going to stop paying attention to you and your music and you'll stop getting gigs. Believe I have had a lot of drunken experiences during band practice and after gigs but you are there to entertain and get people to notice you. From my past experiences I can say its prob only going to get worse for you, you can either set the guys straight, fire them and replace them with guys that want to be professional, or just wait until the band disintegrates.