Ebay Ethics
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J-Dubya 777
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Dude, if you got stuck in an elevator with me, and I accidentally had onions, I GUARANTEE I would make you upset,
I hope they never get deleted, as I laugh my ass off every time I read them. Oh, and Milton, I'm gonna piss in your beer come September. Probably better than the swill you would normally drink!
I double dog dare ya!
Metalmilitia2000
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Metalmilitia2000
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I agree with you.
I recall the Atlanta morning radio hosts "The Regular Guys" buying the latest at the time version of a Play Station, when it came out around Christmas a few years ago.
They then auctioned it on air. Since it was Christmas and hard to get it sold for about five times retail.
Granted, the bidders could have waited until after Christmas to get one, but of course the guys played the guilt card, and the bidders didn't want to disappoint their kids.
Obviously the winner never had to bid somewhere between $1500-$2000, and only he knows if he could afford it. But I remember thinking that it was a lot of money to drop one one item at that time of year, especially since he could have gotten one in a few weeks for much less. I also thought and that it was kind of cold of the Regular Guys to let it go that high.
AngraRULES
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Bitch, if you wanna buy in Atlanta, I'll take a few (many) Newcastles. And listen, do I look like a Minnesota hick who listens to Annihilator?
I'll make sure to wear that Nevermore shirt I outbid you on Ebay.
AngraRULES
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Exactly. I'm glad you agree that Angra >>>>>>>>> Annihilator.
AeonicSlumber said:Yeah
at least Annihilator has 2 good albums.
*runs and hides*
See? Angra's winning already!
AngraRULES
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Dude, if you got stuck in an elevator with me, and I accidentally had onions, I GUARANTEE I would make you upset,
I've made you cry in Atlanta before. Admit it.
J-Dubya 777 said:I double dog dare ya!
Now let's not give the lunatic ideas, ok?
AMBR
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A bit off topic, but I thought more folks would see it here as opposed to the Lounge.
Groupon is offering a $15 credit towards any purchase on eBay for $7! Limit 1 per person and you must have a PayPal account.
~Jen
Groupon is offering a $15 credit towards any purchase on eBay for $7! Limit 1 per person and you must have a PayPal account.
~Jen
dcowboys311
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Jasonic
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Maybe so, though I bet they didn't lose one fan because of it, since any rational person knows it's a matter of economics and not a matter of ethics which drove the price. No one was deceived.
Now, what would definitely be unethical would be if the radio hosts got it free and then resold it for the going rate. I am sure this happens all the time for any collectible.
Bottom line, its not unethical to resell ANYTHING for the going rate if you purchased it for the original selling price.
dcowboys311
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Right, but this discussion specifically relates to people who purchase band's records/shirts/what have you for the sole purpose of flipping. You can bring in other analogies to prove yr point (hell, I did) but at the end of the day it's a pretty specific situation that the topic was about. And I don't think anyone here believes that ethics drive the prices of anything.
You think it's ok to remove someone's ability to pay a 'fair price' for an item you have no interest in so that you can receive some cash in your pocket? Taking away the option of supporting the band you love and instead forcing someone to support some guy they'll never meet or have any connection to aside from a Paypal transaction? There's nothing ethically wrong with that?
I'm all about the free market but obviously I hold some reservations when it comes to music. And, like I said earlier, I'm still on the fence about this issue. And having discussions on discussion boards is fun, no?
Curious, though. I attended a Glassjaw show last month. They were handing out a free tour-only EP. They're going for $40-$50 a pop on the bay. Is it unethical to you to sell this EP for the 'going rate'? I received it for free....its original purchase price was $0.00....so is it ok for me to flip it?
Jasonic
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I would say yes, it is.
The band knows this is going to happen.
It generates buzz, having a rarity floating around eBay.
So many bands are known for how much rare items are going for.
We can go around in circles for days.
At the end of the day it will ALWAYS come down to economics.
It is the reason that the "unethical" people that you and Aeonic are concerned about are purchasing such items in the first place.
Well, it's the band who places the limited item for sale, right?
I do understand where you are coming from.
Not really sure how you can even have such a discussion without essentially calling EVERY single reseller who sells something at the going market rate unethical.
Look at sporting events. You know DARN well that many guys in the sports memorabilia business attend events they don't care about, like "Bobble Head" or "Jersey" night, for the sole purpose of obtaining it for resale purposes.
So what happens in the end? Another fan who was not able to attend the event purchases it for the "going rate"
Ok, I am done. Ethics or not, it comes down to economics, which you guys are not willing to bring into the equation.
Metalmilitia2000
UM's Resident Asshole
I'll make sure to wear that Nevermore shirt I outbid you on Ebay.
That's fine, ill have one by then, as Jim is sending me a box that has one of almost every nevermore/sanctuary shirt ever produced that is coming from his closet because he has no use for them as a thank you for letting him stay with me for a few days back in nov. Ill be sure to wear the sanctuary shirt from their first tour for you!
I agree. A fool and his money...
While I recall the angst in his voice as he made the winning bid, he knew what he was doing.
I'm a believer in personal responsibility. The Regular Guys didn't force him to pay that much.
Jasonic said:
That's a bit of a contradiction. For the record, I think it's okay too. However, Receiving that PS for free and selling it would be okay too, IMO.
Jasonic
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Hmm....ok, I can agree a little bit.
The reason why I would say the radio dudes would be more unethical in such a situation would be if they were given the console for promotional purposes (IE - to give to a listener in a contest), but then kept it to sell.
In my examples, these are items which were given directly to the fan.
Yeah, it isn't 100% black and white, but what really is?
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