Ebay Ethics

Yes, because this practice hasn't affected Apple financially yet. Apple is one of the most successful companies in existence. Agalloch on the other hand isn't even a career band, they barely make any money whatsoever doing it.

And no offense, but to say there isn't an ethical debate to this just because you don't agree is ridiculous. That's like saying there shouldn't be an ethical debate as to whether the by stander should have sacrificed his own life to save a child from a car crash because standing idly by is perfectly legal and OK. And before any of the reading sleuths on this board misconstrue the previous statement as though I've taken a side on it, I haven't. I'm objectively noting that it's a valid scenario for ethical to debate.

You might be taking this a bit too serious now mate....
 
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Please, and I mean this in the nicest way possible. Shut the hell up. You bring this up in every thread that you can and it gets really old, really quick.
 
Yes, because this practice hasn't affected Apple financially yet. Apple is one of the most successful companies in existence. Agalloch on the other hand isn't even a career band, they barely make any money whatsoever doing it.
But does the resale of band items actually hurt the band? They sold the item at what they thought was a fair price to start with. Besides, that was just one example of resale by what was originally intended as an end user. Also, some have said perhaps bands actually have a hand in this practice and could possibly be benefiting. Not saying Agalloch is, but this debate is about all bands right?
And no offense, but to say there isn't an ethical debate to this just because you don't agree is ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is you keep asking for a serious debate, yet make statements like this repeatedly that are insulting and no preface of "no offense" negates that. I don't think it IS an ethical debate, but one based on fans emotional attachment to the band and their success. But just because I post that doesn't mean I expect you or anyone else to agree with me and I don't think I have to put IMO in order for that to be understood. You aren't open to other people's opinions, so I am not interested in continuing the discussion.
 

It has nothing to do with my head being buried in the sand. It is the fact that no matter how much you want to bitch and try to champion your cause, nothing is going to change. It makes you out out to be some holier than thou, self righteous prick who has nothing better to do than climb on your soapbox and bitch about it. You're like the Westboro Baptist Church of downloading.
 
It has nothing to do with my head being buried in the sand. It is the fact that no matter how much you want to bitch and try to champion your cause, nothing is going to change. It makes you out out to be some holier than thou, self righteous prick who has nothing better to do than climb on your soapbox and bitch about it. You're like the Westboro Baptist Church of downloading.

thanks for the new sig
 
No more than anyone else :Smug: But insult away if it boosts your ego. :heh::danceboy:


It has nothing to do with my head being buried in the sand. It is the fact that no matter how much you want to bitch and try to champion your cause, nothing is going to change. It makes you out out to be some holier than thou, self righteous prick who has nothing better to do than climb on your soapbox and bitch about it. You're like the Westboro Baptist Church of downloading.
 
If you really think that you, or anyone else on this board has ever made me upset, I can't help but laugh.@

I can testify to this. We've had epic PM battles where we tried to out-troll eachother that went on for ever, like a hawk grabbing onto a snake and the snake wrapping itself around the hawk in an eternal cosmic struggle. Good times!
 
I can testify to this. We've had epic PM battles where we tried to out-troll eachother that went on for ever, like a hawk grabbing onto a snake and the snake wrapping itself around the hawk in an eternal cosmic struggle. Good times!

Gonna go ahead and agree here! :lol:

The best thing about it all is that no matter how wicked and epic the trolling battles are, it's still a hell of a time to have a beer with your opponent comes September... and even better is when we start doing epic, face-to-face trolling battles. :lol: Brent usually wins them all, as he's not just an online asshole. A real lifetime asshole as well. :lol:
 
Aeonic, with this private message:
I just want to say, that I think you are arguably the dumbest person to ever use the internet ever. Congratulations.

You have proved my point many times over.......

Disagreeing with you does not warrant your blast. Look around moron.
The only one who even remotely agrees with you is dcowboys311, your partner in crime.

Look, I honestly had nothing against you until this thread.

Why don't you take some time off and actually read and absorb what most here are trying to tell you.

This forum isn't your soapbox. You are trying to earn some major cred around here, and in the end are honestly coming off as a major tool.

Well done. I am 100% done with you.
 
lol well you put it out here, not me. Not my problem. But yeah,it's also not my fault that you make ridiculous personal generalizations against me and that you misread every post on this board.

Aeonic, with this private message:

Disagreeing with you does not warrant your blast.

Agreed. And honestly, I could've said far worse given how many times you've misread what I've said or made some ridiculous generalization.


But I agree, simply disagreeing with me does not warrant a "blast." Last time I checked:

How old are you? Do you own a car, house, business? Do you support yourself, or are you dependent on someone else? I am 100% serious with these questions and am in NO way trying to insult you.

Your comments in this thread are coming off as a teenage punk rocker who lives at home and tries to defeat "the man"

Is not "disagreeing with me. It's you acting like a child, too stubborn to take 5 minutes read what's said here. I never said ANYWHERE that I'm trying to defeat "the man." Where you get that idea is absolutely beyond me, considering all the music industry discussions I've posted in, in total favor of the business and capitalism, utilizing economic tenets, etc. You can't differentiate an objective debate from personal subjective opinion? That's YOUR problem. You deserve every "blast" that's stated man.

Are you saying that any art dealer is NOT a fan of art and is unethical because the market has driven the price of the said piece far beyond what was originally paid for? So, if someone, fan or not, wanted to sell an item, they are unethical if they sell for the "going rate"?...
Does that mean that my company should sell its stocks far below market value, because if we have a high performing quarter, it would be unethical since maybe in the previous quarter the stock was going at half the rate?

No, I am not saying anything I am inciting a discussion about the topic. I have an opinion, but I actually found a few of the vibes and posts here to be rather successful. I definitely had to re-think my ethical standpoint because of a few posts for sure. That's the point of threads like these. If you feel that threatened by the topic that you don't even want to read it, yeah, you need to get a grasp on how the net works.

The only one who even remotely agrees with you is dcowboys311, your partner in crime.

I don't see how it matters, because as I said this is an open discussion and there's nothing wrong with having multiple points of view. Besides the two trolls and the one or two guys that assumed I'm on a soapbox because I missed out on a deal or whatever when in reality I was inspired by a well written article on the matter (and by the way, you would think that this is a valid enough topic when other sites are covering the issue... so why you seem to feel it's "bullshit" is also beyond me-- I like Agalloch, but I don't like them enough to spend 30 bucks on rare vinyl or whatever), I thought the majority of the posts here were really interesting (except for yours, because they were incoherent and were the product of sloppy comprehension of the topic). That said: AngraRules, your buddy Diabolik, Mardoch, rms, dcowboys, kimavir, Orbweaver (at the very least, on the notion of the thread, but maybe not my opinion), and possibly others agreed with me. But I guess YOU can't be bothered to READ the thread to figure that out.




Why don't you take some time off and actually read and absorb what most here are trying to tell you.

How about you read for a change? It doesn't take long, and you actually sound like you know what you're talking about with the new knowledge gained. Give it a try for ONCE please!

This forum isn't your soapbox.

Not sure where you assumed it was.

Well done. I am 100% done with you.

Don't care.
 
I can testify to this. We've had epic PM battles where we tried to out-troll eachother that went on for ever, like a hawk grabbing onto a snake and the snake wrapping itself around the hawk in an eternal cosmic struggle. Good times!

I hope they never get deleted, as I laugh my ass off every time I read them. Oh, and Milton, I'm gonna piss in your beer come September. Probably better than the swill you would normally drink! :lol: