ENGL Savage 120W

[Oshkosh]

Hello all. I am new to the ultimate metal forums but I have fallen back in love with metal and would enjoy immersing myself into the scene. I am planning on purchasing new amplification — specifically the ENGL Savage is what I'm looking at. My question to you is this: Have you played it? And if so, how does it compare to other amps in the price-range? I intend to play very high voltage technical melodic death metal, and the Savage looks like a great head.

Thank you for your time

 

[VH100R]

read HERE

 

[Oshkosh]

Damn . . . sounds like exactly what I want.

 

[gorath23]

Quite possibly one of, if not, the, most respected amps in metal these days. Never heard a bad word about it.

 

[Machinated]

I wasn't particularly blown away by it in all honesty......There is something with ENGL's that doesn't quite click with me. That said, of all the cabs I tried it with, the Mesa oversized was the best one with it.

 

[gorath23]

Haha, ok theres one negative comment for you.

 

[Machinated]

Hahaha sorry it had to be me.....Its all a taste thing really, I mean you can tell its a good amp (4 channels, loads of switches and stuff). I just found it to be like a more "crunchy" kind of sound than your typical metal kind of sound. Its cool for a kind of unique sound (think Darkane - Layers of Lies). I guess a typical sound for a Savage would be Natural Born Chaos, which don't get me wrong is a good sound but for me its a little bit too loose in the low end, and also the feel of the amp wasn't quite as smooth as the other amps I have.

 

[Djabthrash]

Hahaha sorry it had to be me.....Its all a taste thing really (...) I just found it to be like a more "crunchy" kind of sound than your typical metal kind of sound.

This "crunchy" sound is what most ENGL freaks (including me) are after IMO.

I prefer the gritty ENGL crunchy sound than the smooth/fat/polished sound of a 5150 for instance.

 

[Machinated]

This "crunchy" sound is what most ENGL freaks (including me) are after IMO.

I prefer the gritty ENGL crunchy sound than the smooth/fat/polished sound of a 5150 for instance.

Yeah of course - its purely a taste thing. I guess I was expecting to be able to get other sounds too or something. Its the kind of amp that would be cool to have as it has a unique character.

For most of the bands I work with, the Mesa, Peavey and Krank get more use than I'd use the savage for I think.

 

[Djabthrash]

Yeah of course - its purely a taste thing. I guess I was expecting to be able to get other sounds too or something. Its the kind of amp that would be cool to have as it has a unique character.

For most of the bands I work with, the Mesa, Peavey and Krank get more use than I'd use the savage for I think.

I think if you use a lot of gain, presence and don't put too much mids you can be in the 5150 "modern metal tone" territory, but then i feel the 5150/Krank kinda makes it better, so i guess people should get ENGLs for what they're good at and not to get the 5150/Krank sound:

-tight as fuck crunchy gritty articulate low gain rythm tone

-nice liquid articulate lead tone (my SE on channel 4 does that pretty well).

 

[Oshkosh]

So . . . this "crunch" you speak of, is it suitable for extremely gnarly metal? Think Nile, Carcass, Arsis, Necrophagist, etc. And with the savage would I be able to get some smooth melodic lead out of it? I intend to play a lot of harmonized parts with another guitarist (Melodic death).

 

[Djabthrash]

So . . . this "crunch" you speak of, is it suitable for extremely gnarly metal? Think Nile, Carcass, Arsis, Necrophagist, etc. And with the savage would I be able to get some smooth melodic lead out of it? I intend to play a lot of harmonized parts with another guitarist (Melodic death).

Yes IMO (provided you like this kind of tone again...)

BTW the tone on Carcass' "Swan song" sounds kinda ENGL-esque to me, and the Necrophagist tone is ENGL anyway.

When i use my SE i use the same rythm sound to jam along some metal/hardcore/punkrock/stoner/rock tunes, and it works well for all.

 

[Metaltastic]

Blind Guardian's "A Twist in the Myth" and Dimmu's "In Sorte Diaboli" are to me the definitive examples of the Engl tone, and I love it on both! Anyone know what was used on Soilwork's "Chainheart Machine" by the way? Sounds somewhat Engl-ish...

 

[gorath23]

Blind Guardian's "A Twist in the Myth" and Dimmu's "In Sorte Diaboli" are to me the definitive examples of the Engl tone, and I love it on both! Anyone know what was used on Soilwork's "Chainheart Machine" by the way? Sounds somewhat Engl-ish...

Chainheart Machine was produced by Fredrik Nordstrom, so its very likely it was a Savage 120 mixed with 5150.