This thing is fuckin' dehabilitating, especially to first time listeners. If they can get passed the first few bars of the music. "All hope is completely lost" on this album. I know it's been awhile since it's release(2001) but, I know some who think it's the best album in the genre. I don't know about that, but it's really impressive. Thoughts and opinions from the doom/death people on this forum. Thanx.