Extreme-Iso Headphones...
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Jackal_Strain
Sigurd Løberg
I just bought a pair of akg k 271 mk II and they're great! Very neutral response and great isolation.
Actually have both of those, but I'd like to find something that's going to give me a more natural sound, plus a bit more "studio-rugged", since I don't trust those flimsy cords on the buds...
They look nice, how much bleed do you get with em? I'm looking for a better pair than my Sony's for tweaking mic positions on guitar cabs.
ProjectHamsterdam
God of Emptiness
Yes, do you know how much the AKG K-271 MK II-s reduce the outside noise (by how many db)?
I was looking at those two alternatives:
EXTREME ISOLATION EX-29
VIC FIRTH SIH 1 KOPFHÖRER
I need them for working on mic placement or tracking while the cab is in the room. I guess both would do the job, but the Extreme Isolation EX-29s seem to isolate the noise better (-29db), the Vic Firth ones are -24db.
I read in the Jens Borgen thread that he uses Vic Firth headphones for his mic placement. They look much more comfier.
Anyone care to veer me in one direction or the other?
I was looking at those two alternatives:
EXTREME ISOLATION EX-29
VIC FIRTH SIH 1 KOPFHÖRER
I need them for working on mic placement or tracking while the cab is in the room. I guess both would do the job, but the Extreme Isolation EX-29s seem to isolate the noise better (-29db), the Vic Firth ones are -24db.
I read in the Jens Borgen thread that he uses Vic Firth headphones for his mic placement. They look much more comfier.
Anyone care to veer me in one direction or the other?
ahjteam
Anssi Tenhunen
I've tried these and really can't recommend them, they sound pretty awful.
I've used Sennheiser HD25's for the drummer, they work like a charm
Well -24db is a HUGE amount of reduction. I have calibrated ear plugs and the highest filter the company makes is -20db of reduction (I use the -15db and they make a jam session sound similar to the intensity of a stereo at moderate volume.) That being said, dB are logarithmic and not linear, so the difference between -20 and -24 is quite a bit different sounding than the difference between -24 and -29. But to be honest, -24 is more than enough for this sort of application as long as the gain on your amp isnt fucking dimed
ProjectHamsterdam
God of Emptiness
Thanks, the Sennheiser-s are out of my league for now. 
Since the Vic Firths do not sound that well, I guess I'll have to try the Extreme Isolation ones (EX-29). As well as good isolation, I need to be able to monitor and assess the sound through them.
"The EX-29 is suggested for critical mixing." - could be an advertising thing since it is from their website, but I'm willing to try it.
Broodwich, thanks for the explanation!
Since the Vic Firths do not sound that well, I guess I'll have to try the Extreme Isolation ones (EX-29). As well as good isolation, I need to be able to monitor and assess the sound through them. "The EX-29 is suggested for critical mixing." - could be an advertising thing since it is from their website, but I'm willing to try it.
Broodwich, thanks for the explanation!
tgs
Elder
I have two pairs of SIH-1 and they indeed sound pretty bad, but the drummers who have used them so far thought they were great. It's like NS10: people hear what they need for tracking. I wouldn't wanna put them on a singer though.
Check out also Sennheiser hd280 pro. I just bought a pair because IMO my akg 271 didn't isolate enough. They sound pretty good too and cost only about 100e (95e @ Thomann). You also won't have problems with the click bleeding from the phones to mics with these.
There were a lot of threads about iso headphones in GS and after reading those, I decided to get phones that also sound ok. Better for singers and they can also be used as reference phones in mixing and finding mic positions on cabs.
There were a lot of threads about iso headphones in GS and after reading those, I decided to get phones that also sound ok. Better for singers and they can also be used as reference phones in mixing and finding mic positions on cabs.
GeertSamuel
Member
ProjectHamsterdam
God of Emptiness
Yay! The HD 280 PRO look like what I'm after. 32db of attenuation! I bet they sound better than the EX-29 and SIH-1 too. And they won't break the bank, which is good.
kaomao
Member
I got those hd280 pro and yes they don't fucking take 30 db down, seriusly they take a lot down but not that much lol
That's what I also read before I bought them. I knew the Extreme-Iso or Vic Firths propably would isolate better, but I wanted phones that also sound good...
Check out also these:
http://www.ITRstudio.com/moreme.html
They get pretty good reviews, but at Mercenary Audio website it said they don't generally sound as good as Sennheisers or AKGs, so if you want to buy phones that you're also going to use when mixing, they might not be what you're after...
ProjectHamsterdam
God of Emptiness
I would still prefer the HD 280 PROs even if they didn't attenuate as much. Sounding better is preferrable.
I just hope the attenuation is enough for them to be useful. Standing in front of a cranked amp in a small room can be quite a painful experience.
Do you think they would work for that? I mean approximately rehearsal level cranked, so the mic can pick up a bit of speaker movement while tracking. I would also need to be able to hear the metronome and the other recorded tracks at less than painful levels. Thanks!
I just hope the attenuation is enough for them to be useful. Standing in front of a cranked amp in a small room can be quite a painful experience.
Do you think they would work for that? I mean approximately rehearsal level cranked, so the mic can pick up a bit of speaker movement while tracking. I would also need to be able to hear the metronome and the other recorded tracks at less than painful levels. Thanks!
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
grywolf627
Member
I agree with all that's been said about the Vic Firths. They isolate well, but they sound terrible. I can't honestly say I like the sound of the Extreme Iso 29s either, although they isolate fairly well too.
I HOPE they will, because I also just bought these
. They sure seem to block the sound more than my AKG 271's (i compared em at home with my stereo loud) and I've recorded with the AKG's in the same room with the amp quite many times. However this is NOT the same as having a control room, but sometimes I just don't have the luxury of recording in the studio. I'll try my Sennheisers later this week at our rehearsal room.
I've also used Koss Spark Plugs and they work pretty damn well also, but recording with them is a pita if you need to take them off often and they break very easily and are not that comfortable IMO.
Exocaster
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The HD280Pros sound fantastic, and I have no issue in a room with a live band or sitting down behind a drum kit with those on- they're at least as effective as earplugs as far as attenuating sound goes. I've never had a click bleed problem with them either.
