Fat attack!

[firewalkjen]

If you read what I posted here earlier this statement can equal to something like “Oh I understand he/she had problems but why schizophrenia she/he could be just get psychosis” or “oh I see he/she felt of the bridge but why to get a compound fracture?!!”
The first example is probably better… what I’m trying to say is that when it comes to 500 lbs the weight cannot be controlled and the people cannot control how far cam they go. The problem is in the receptor in the brain and there is nothing they can do about it. The ones that can face their problem seek help and others choose to live in denial which is common for human nature…

And one more thing, this tread is about extremely overweight people and not just fat, and if you ask me by my standards no one is fat on this board.

Except for maybe me… I tried on my fathers pants from 15 years ago today and they fit me just perfectly in my waist. I did not expect that… but… just maybe he was anorexic…

OH and I never said anyone on this bored was fat. You are definately very far from even being fluffy . So i don't think that statement applies to what I was saying. I think everyone one this bored is charming in their own way and seem to all have great personalities and that's all I really care about.

 

[ScientistOfDarkness]

It almost sounds like you're saying we should feel sorry for people who have addictions. Then maybe we should blame their families for not pushing them into rehab or in the case of obese people, forcing them to go to the hospital to get help. Human nature plays into everything. That's obvious. I don't think anyone on this board is ignorant to that fact. Why should we baby people who's own excessive lifestyles have brought them to the horrible state they're in now. Common Sense would tell you if you eat too much you'll gain weight yet people keep on going. People know drugs are bad, yet they keep taking them. It's all a matter of self esteem. If you are happy with yourself and who you are you will not need things like drugs and excessive overeating to make you feel good.

It's really not worth going back and forth about. It's a matter of opinion.

And opinions are like assholes. everyone has one and they all smell like shit.

Well said.


@ lizard - sounds yummy. I've only had black coffee today.

 

[lizard]

I had a sugar free red bull for breakfast and to wake up because last night I had a He Brew Rye India Pale Ale and some other beverages I and I was a might fuzzy this a.m. but yeah, each thursday the IT guys and I usually go out to either Grinders subs or Chipotle's....since I'm down about 40 lbs since January I'm doing alright.

since I'm not as big, tho, I notice I get chillier easier, wtf

 

[ScientistOfDarkness]

I had a sugar free red bull for breakfast and to wake up because last night I had a He Brew Rye India Pale Ale and some other beverages I and I was a might fuzzy this a.m. but yeah, each thursday the IT guys and I usually go out to either Grinders subs or Chipotle's....since I'm down about 40 lbs since January I'm doing alright.

since I'm not as big, tho, I notice I get chillier easier, wtf

I notice that too. And congratulations - good job. Chipotle owns, I love their massive veggie burrito monsters.

 

[lizard]

now comes the hard part, remaining my current svelt, trim self

 

[Metal head87]

I think junk food is just as bad as cigarettes, yet any kid can buy this stuff.
One time I was at a drug store and I had to pick up a few items. So I was on the line to pay, and then some kid (I couldn't even tell if it was a boy or a girl, but all I could tell was that one of his/her thighs were bigger than my waist) with a few bags of chocolate asks me if he/she could go ahead of me since he/she was it was urgent and had less items so it would be quicker. So I said fine. Right after paying, he/she tore open the bag of chocolate (it was those little balls of the candy bars, like the reeses bars or whatever it's called) and scarfed it down.
How the hell is that any less dangerous than cigarettes? Granted there is no second hand smoke, but I doubt that is part of the restriction. What about people that eat like 5 burgers at a time? What about kids that drink nothing but soda? They are all headed to an early grave and parents don't do anything about it. Your mom catches you smoking, you're certainly going to hear about how horrible it is and how it's such a bad habit. Yet that same mother gives you money for McDonalds and Hershey’s.
I've even seen families of obese people. I was at a Chinese place buying sushi (I know but Chinese places do make it too) and I see this family of four, even the little kid probably weighed more than me. Of course each one of them had a few servings of the fattiest food on the menu.

But my point in this is that it is a choice they make. They are the ones buying all this crap and putting it into their bodies. I think they should have to buy two plane tickets. Why should I have to be squeezed in my seat because somebody doesn't understand that one burger is terrible for their bodies, let alone four or five at one time? Did you ever try going to the bathroom when they are the ones sitting on the aisle seat? It becomes a whole production with the guy/woman trying to get out of their seat since you cannot walk passed them.
I don't think they have the right to park in the handicapped parking spot either. Those are reserved for elderly people, or people with actual disabilities. Just because they let themselves go to the point where they can barely walk a few steps without having to catch their breath doesn't mean they deserve special treatment.

Not only all this, but people are STILL getting fatter! I don't exactly see them saying "instead of a burger, let's get a salad" or "instead of this artificially flavored strawberry thing, let's just buy real strawberries".
Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against people being fat or overweight. But when it reaches the point of obesity or morbid obesity, that is when I get pissed off. I don't care what they do to their bodies, they obviously don't. But they have no right to expect special treatment because they chose to be that way. They may not want to be obese, but eating fast food and candy bars means they choose to be.
If they really want to lose weight and stop, they should go to a rehab program. They shouldn't be able to get handicapped parking spots or be able to make everyone else very uncomfortable because they don't want to buy an extra ticket when they ARE the size of two people.
One time, some guy even made a problem that I wouldn't give him my seat on the subway. He said that I have to since he was disabled. I gave him the seat because it wasn't worth getting in a whole big scene over, but I also told him that he is NOT disabled, he just eats way too much crap and became obese. Yet he said that I have some nerve to say that.

You may disagree with me, and I'll respect your opinion. But I just felt like putting in my two cents into this subject.
I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but I believe what I said to be true, which is why I said it.

 

[Cephalopod]

I think junk food is just as bad as cigarettes, yet any kid can buy this stuff.
One time I was at a drug store and I had to pick up a few items. So I was on the line to pay, and then some kid (I couldn't even tell if it was a boy or a girl, but all I could tell was that one of his/her thighs were bigger than my waist) with a few bags of chocolate asks me if he/she could go ahead of me since he/she was it was urgent and had less items so it would be quicker. So I said fine. Right after paying, he/she tore open the bag of chocolate (it was those little balls of the candy bars, like the reeses bars or whatever it's called) and scarfed it down.

Eww.

Why should I have to be squeezed in my seat because somebody doesn't understand that one burger is terrible for their bodies, let alone four or five at one time? Did you ever try going to the bathroom when they are the ones sitting on the aisle seat? It becomes a whole production with the guy/woman trying to get out of their seat since you cannot walk passed them.
I don't think they have the right to park in the handicapped parking spot either. Those are reserved for elderly people, or people with actual disabilities. Just because they let themselves go to the point where they can barely walk a few steps without having to catch their breath doesn't mean they deserve special treatment.

Not only all this, but people are STILL getting fatter! I don't exactly see them saying "instead of a burger, let's get a salad" or "instead of this artificially flavored strawberry thing, let's just buy real strawberries".
Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against people being fat or overweight. But when it reaches the point of obesity or morbid obesity, that is when I get pissed off. I don't care what they do to their bodies, they obviously don't. But they have no right to expect special treatment because they chose to be that way. They may not want to be obese, but eating fast food and candy bars means they choose to be.
If they really want to lose weight and stop, they should go to a rehab program. They shouldn't be able to get handicapped parking spots or be able to make everyone else very uncomfortable because they don't want to buy an extra ticket when they ARE the size of two people.
One time, some guy even made a problem that I wouldn't give him my seat on the subway. He said that I have to since he was disabled. I gave him the seat because it wasn't worth getting in a whole big scene over, but I also told him that he is NOT disabled, he just eats way too much crap and became obese. Yet he said that I have some nerve to say that.

You may disagree with me, and I'll respect your opinion. But I just felt like putting in my two cents into this subject.
I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but I believe what I said to be true, which is why I said it.

I agree with you here. I don't think that obese people should get special treatment like handicapped parking spots. Sure, I may WISH I'd parked in the handicapped spot after I've just finished a giant meal at Fatty McGreaseburger's, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna make myself fat enough so that it's legal.

And good for you for having the balls to say something to that guy...I would have just cowered in fear.

 

[lizard]

to be fair, some big people develop physical problems with their legs and feet. Is it their fault? maybe most of the time, but that doesn't negate the fact that the disability itself could be legit.

and trust me, I get pissed when I see apparently hale and hearty individuals parking in an H-spot and then sprinting into the store.

 

[ScientistOfDarkness]

You may disagree with me, and I'll respect your opinion. But I just felt like putting in my two cents into this subject.
I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but I believe what I said to be true, which is why I said it.

I really don't disagree with you, and I certainly respect your opinion. You hit a lot of valid points.

Too many parents will sit their kids in front of the tv and give them a candy bar to shut them up. I know sometimes parents have to crack and give in a little when the kids scream 24/7. But too many parents have gone from making a happy meal a once a month treat, to it being a three times a week quick fix to shut their kids up. That's why there are so damn many stupid kids shows on tv, sit em down and get em out of your hair. I didn't get to have entire networks devoted to kid's shows when I was a kid. I rode my bike all the time and slept in cemeteries. Like a normal kid.

 

[Cephalopod]

I really don't disagree with you, and I certainly respect your opinion. You hit a lot of valid points.

Too many parents will sit their kids in front of the tv and give them a candy bar to shut them up. I know sometimes parents have to crack and give in a little when the kids scream 24/7. But too many parents have gone from making a happy meal a once a month treat, to it being a three times a week quick fix to shut their kids up. That's why there are so damn many stupid kids shows on tv, sit em down and get em out of your hair. I didn't get to have entire networks devoted to kid's shows when I was a kid. I rode my bike all the time and slept in cemeteries. Like a normal kid.

The truth!

Parents like that drive me nuts. Thank god mine were cool enough to take me out of the house and show me that climbing trees and eating bugs is WAY more exciting than watching Sesame Street reruns for 2 hours. Though I'm pretty sure I never slept in a cemetery...but I was sheltered.

 

[Bacchante]

Just to contribute to the "fat" conversation we have going...

When I was little, I was your a-typical wirey/skinny kid. When I was about five or so, my parents put me on a cortisol steroidal inhaler due to my chronic athsma. At that time, I began to put on weight rapidly, even though I was always playing with my neighbors and didn't eat much. The medicine most likely contributed to the growth of my rather large thyroid, early "development" (when I was about 7) and sinus arrythmia....among several other problems.

I was always picked on in school because I was bigger than all the other girls. I wasn't anywhere near obese, I just wasn't a twig. I fucking hated school because of these little bastards. There was hardly a day where I didn't come home crying because of something they said or did to me.

I'm at an average weight now, but I have to watch EVERYTHING I eat, or I gain weight very easily (and rapidly, too...whee). If I need to lose weight, I basically have to work out every day a week for several hours (If I'm not jogging or lifting weights, I walk/hike all over the place. I spent over 5 hours walking the beach and hiking the redwoods yesterday). I have fun, but its hell at the same time.

I became self conscious, reclusive and depressed at a very young age, but I also developed strong feelings of empathy toward others. I try not to judge others because it feels wrong to me....unless you make yourself easy to judge...like the guy stealing tacos.

 

[Captain Beard]

and milkshakes.

 

[Bacchante]

yes

 

[ScientistOfDarkness]

Just to contribute to the "fat" conversation we have going...

When I was little, I was your a-typical wirey/skinny kid. When I was about five or so, my parents put me on a cortisol steroidal inhaler due to my chronic athsma. At that time, I began to put on weight rapidly, even though I was always playing with my neighbors and didn't eat much. The medicine most likely contributed to the growth of my rather large thyroid, early "development" (when I was about 7) and sinus arrythmia....among several other problems.

I was always picked on in school because I was bigger than all the other girls. I wasn't anywhere near obese, I just wasn't a twig. I fucking hated school because of these little bastards. There was hardly a day where I didn't come home crying because of something they said or did to me.

I'm at an average weight now, but I have to watch EVERYTHING I eat, or I gain weight very easily (and rapidly, too...whee). If I need to lose weight, I basically have to work out every day a week for several hours (If I'm not jogging or lifting weights, I walk/hike all over the place. I spent over 5 hours walking the beach and hiking the redwoods yesterday). I have fun, but its hell at the same time.

I became self conscious, reclusive and depressed at a very young age, but I also developed strong feelings of empathy toward others. I try not to judge others because it feels wrong to me....unless you make yourself easy to judge...like the guy stealing tacos.

I used to use the same sort of inhaler, they suck! And yes, the taco milkshake guy is a freakin moron.

I had the same issues in school. I left in 7th grade to homeschool, and never went back. The kids TORTURED me. Some kid sliced his arm on the fence one day, and wiped his blood all over me. He asked how I liked being a fat pig. I asked how he liked being a dirty spic. Guess which one of us got in trouble.

 

[Cephalopod]

I got picked on in school, too. Kids are bastards to people who aren't exactly like them.

That's alright, though, because I'm one of the only people from my class who isn't working at Taco Bell and pumping out ugly babies.

 

[Bacchante]

That...sucks.
I never had blood smeared on me, but certain kids tried to throw me in an open storm drain, threw whole cans of sprite at my face...And a lot of the kids that picked on me were Latino.

I remember kids would do shit to each other, like push someone off a slide, and then blame it on me...and the stupid teachers would belive it, no questions asked.

I hate kids like that.

 

[Metal head87]

Just to be clear though, I wasn't making fun of fat people. Although I would be lying if I said that when Al Bundy makes fun of the women in the shoe store I don't laugh my ass off.
There is a huge difference between being fat and being obese. Being fat can be caused by many different things that is not someone's fault. Genes, not realizing what they eat is bad but stopping before they cross the obese line etc. Even some foods can even react differently to people without them even realizing it. Some people can eat beef and stay lean, yet other people will gain a lot of weight.
When someone stands in their kitchen with half a cake and a bag of potato chips, they get what they were asking for. If someone just has a little bit here and there, that is fine. What causes obesity is the overindulgence of that junk. A candy bar here and there never hurt anyone. But a few candy bars a day will give someone a waist size of 56.

I never make fun of someone for being fat though. The only time I really did that was on the subway like I said before, but that guy deserved it. He wasn’t even fat, he was morbidly obese.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

I got picked on in school, too. Kids are bastards to people who aren't exactly like them.

Pffft.

 

[Bacchante]

I got picked on in school, too. Kids are bastards to people who aren't exactly like them.

That's alright, though, because I'm one of the only people from my class who isn't working at Taco Bell and pumping out ugly babies.

QFT

 

[ScientistOfDarkness]

I got picked on in school, too. Kids are bastards to people who aren't exactly like them.

That's alright, though, because I'm one of the only people from my class who isn't working at Taco Bell and pumping out ugly babies.

*nods emphatically* Most of the people I have run into from school have kids. I see them on MySpace and they're working minimum wage jobs or a "proud parent" or "divorced". Or all three. I'm 23, and most of their kids are like 5 or older. My cousin is 26 and has 5 KIDS, weighs 350 pounds, and lives at home with his mom, dad, wife and 5 kids. Now there's the kid of "fat" person that needs to be smacked. It's one thing to get fat and fuck up your life, but when you can't take your kids to the zoo because you're so overweight, or you start teaching them bad habits, is when the damn cycle starts all over again.

I feel bad for being out of shape and not being able to take my new puppy for jogs. I can't imagine ever subjecting kids to a life of tv and McDonalds.