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Wow, interesting. Sounds like a risky decision going with Rubin. The payoff will be great if it works.
Fidelman mixing the next Gojira album? (fuuu!)
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Watching quite a fair bit of recent Metallica clips, it's pretty clear not only Hetfield's voice is totally shot, but his playing is nowhere near as consistent as it used to be, so yeah 'not tight'
It's the way of the game nowadays. The sticker on the cd-sleeve stating that "a guy who has worked with Metallica has worked on this album" has more market value than how the album actually sounds. A huge percent of the listeners don't give a shit about the sonical qualities of the recording. It's probably going to be an album which will sound great to a regular listener, which is in many cases very different of what sounds great to a regular audio engineer.
Mattayus
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Yeah ^ Not naming names but I had a client leave me halfway through a project because they got "more funding" which enabled them to get their stuff mixed at Fascination Street 
Motherfuckers. I totally understood though, I'm a nobody, and even though the mixes sounded good, I can see the appeal of having their name on your CD rather than mine.
Motherfuckers. I totally understood though, I'm a nobody, and even though the mixes sounded good, I can see the appeal of having their name on your CD rather than mine.
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I never realized that's who it was. I love that album, but I always figured they just got some guy they knew to mix it since they had just parted ways with Rubin and it sounded so terrible.
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It was just disappointing to me after hearing War of Art, which sounded less polished but way heavier and punchier to me, especially the bass tone. It didn't ruin the album or anything though, those songs just sound weaker if I'm shuffling through their discography!
I don't see how having Rick Rubin produce your album could be risky. He is one of the highest selling producer of the last 20 years. His approach is not about getting the best sonics for the album, but the best song writing and performances out of the band. I am sure Gojira will appreciate this over having a "great sounding" record with so so material. To me The way of all flesh sounds great but the songs are just ok, whereas from mars to sirius is awesome, with an ok sound. I prefer FMTS.
Even thought the final mastering of Death Magnetic is vile, the songs are a step in the right direction for metallica. Also, Death magnetic was ruined in the mastering. Just listen to a copy of the guitar hero version and you will hear that the tracks were not clipped before the mastering.
Even thought the final mastering of Death Magnetic is vile, the songs are a step in the right direction for metallica. Also, Death magnetic was ruined in the mastering. Just listen to a copy of the guitar hero version and you will hear that the tracks were not clipped before the mastering.
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^^ By risky, I mean that if Metallica or Slayer put out an album that sounds like shit, people will buy it. If Gojira puts out an album that sounds like shit, it could kill them.
The flipside of course is exactly what you're saying. Rubin may get a killer performance from them and it may skyrocket them toward stardom.
So when I say risky, I did not imply that it was a bad decision. Just a lot less safe than going with Logan Mader. If I were in their shoes, I'd probably go with Rubin too. Fuck it.
The flipside of course is exactly what you're saying. Rubin may get a killer performance from them and it may skyrocket them toward stardom.
So when I say risky, I did not imply that it was a bad decision. Just a lot less safe than going with Logan Mader. If I were in their shoes, I'd probably go with Rubin too. Fuck it.
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Wrong on two levels. People here don't complain about Rick Rubin producing but about Fidelman mixing. And you're wrong about Death Magnetic too
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I am not trying to be right just stating my opinion. There might be clipping on the guitar hero Death magnetic, but at least to me, it is listenable from start to finish without ear fatigue. the released version is unlistenable after 3 songs.
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Gojira have never had a "Sound" if we are referring to the production aspect of things.
All their studio albums have had such a different sound that you can't really pin the band to one sound.
Gojira seems to be a band very much about being totally in the pocket, pure precision and tightness and I feel TWOAF definitely captures that the best.
The first two albums just sound kinda thin and strange (but in different ways), while FMTS has this super unbalanced sound that sounds as if it belongs to a band in a different genre entirely
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The guitars always sounded a bit scratchy to me on FMTS, but overall I fucking LOVE that record. I think the songs are a bit more straightforward on TWOAF. Not bad necessarily, but FMTS is a more engaging listen to me.
Praying that this bands vibe will be captured correctly by Rubin and team.
Praying that this bands vibe will be captured correctly by Rubin and team.
Mattayus
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Yeah, I dunno, although TWOAF has that wow factor with the production, it can come off a little sterile at times as a result. It's just a little too clean and clear, especially for Gojira who are essentially a doom/death band when you break it down. FMTS was super doomy, and although perhaps not as sonically 'professional' sounding (what does that even mean?) it had way more to it in terms of an emotional presentation. It was a little rough around the edges and a little flat, but it suited the music unequivocally. Put it this way - remix FMTS with the TWOAF production and it'd lose everything that is special about it in an instant.
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