EerieVon
Member
I agree with James, if you cant reach him on the phone then accidentally run into him in a public place
Fighting Bogus Theft Charges
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I already confronted him AT HIS HOUSE. He wouldn't even let me in and had that little chain on the door and just kept saying "I'LL TALK TO YOU IN COURT."
i would say just let karma do its job. No sense in getting yourself in more trouble for a bag of ass nachos which this guy apparently is.
Kenny Lee
Member
Don't even worry about it Man! I don't know about Massachusetts jail system, but here in Chicago $1100 crime will get you a hard slap on the wrist 
Your not going to do jail time for this, if you are worried about that. If anything.... you'll get a judgement for what he says you owe him (((IF HE WINS))) and those things are so lame it isn't funny. I had a Guy owe me $10,000.00 on a judgement! Took him awhile to pay it off, but he didn't do jail time.
If I lived with a Bud for that long and I didn't do shit to him or his Family or his belongings and he did this to me .........
Your not going to do jail time for this, if you are worried about that. If anything.... you'll get a judgement for what he says you owe him (((IF HE WINS))) and those things are so lame it isn't funny. I had a Guy owe me $10,000.00 on a judgement! Took him awhile to pay it off, but he didn't do jail time.If I lived with a Bud for that long and I didn't do shit to him or his Family or his belongings and he did this to me .........
I'd give him a reason to have me locked up
Glenn Fricker
Very Metal &Very Bad News
Next time he restocks, call the cops. He'll have a hard time proving his charges against you with no credibility due to drug charges.
then do this. prepare, stay calm and factual and use your rhetoric in a way that presents him as mentally deranged.
it´s nothing special to talk in front of a judge (under this circumstances)
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Thats pretty much what I would probably do. An anonymous tip and the problem solves itself
Loren Littlejohn
Lover of all boobage.
Here is the awesome thing about America. He has to prove you stole the shit, or that he in fact owns this stuff. You are innocent till proven guilty right? So you don't have to prove your innocent THEY have to prove your guilty. In fact all you got to do is say "I didn't do it" and even if you did they would have to prove it .
In fact if there is no evidence and you didn't tell anyone you stole any of this shit then I'm pretty sure your 100% safe. The internet thing as well. I had someone do something real stupid (and illegal) on my network but the mere fact that I had 4 machines and guests in and out of the house somehow got me off... although now I monitor my shit like a hawk.
If he set up the insurance over the phone there is probably a record. There is also (95% positive) usually a way to see what ISP was used to enter/setup the insurance.
If your giving the accurate story then he is pretty much fucked.
Whatever you do DO NOT CALL THIS FUCK AND MAKE ANY THREATENING STATEMENTS! That shit can and will bite you in the ass.
.In fact if there is no evidence and you didn't tell anyone you stole any of this shit then I'm pretty sure your 100% safe. The internet thing as well. I had someone do something real stupid (and illegal) on my network but the mere fact that I had 4 machines and guests in and out of the house somehow got me off... although now I monitor my shit like a hawk.
If he set up the insurance over the phone there is probably a record. There is also (95% positive) usually a way to see what ISP was used to enter/setup the insurance.
If your giving the accurate story then he is pretty much fucked.
Whatever you do DO NOT CALL THIS FUCK AND MAKE ANY THREATENING STATEMENTS! That shit can and will bite you in the ass.
Ah I see Loren beat me to it.
Take it from a criminal justice major, this guy has nothing on you. He(well, a prosecutor) has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you stole all of that stuff. You are better off talking to a lawyer, and not talking to anyone else. In fact, talking about it online in a forum probably won't help you out either. But whatever you do, don't talk to him. The lawyer knows what's best, he will tell you how to handle it.
And anyway, even if they did find you guilty for all of that, you would probably get it knocked down to petty theft which is a slap on the wrist. You would pay restitution and maybe goto some theft class with a shrink and you would get suspended jail time. No big deal at all really.
Take it from a criminal justice major, this guy has nothing on you. He(well, a prosecutor) has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you stole all of that stuff. You are better off talking to a lawyer, and not talking to anyone else. In fact, talking about it online in a forum probably won't help you out either. But whatever you do, don't talk to him. The lawyer knows what's best, he will tell you how to handle it.
And anyway, even if they did find you guilty for all of that, you would probably get it knocked down to petty theft which is a slap on the wrist. You would pay restitution and maybe goto some theft class with a shrink and you would get suspended jail time. No big deal at all really.
iekobrid
Authorized XSr Dealer
What is up with Maryland cops not bothering to question suspects before the initial hearing? Is that a local thing, or has Law & Order totally lied to us?
my limited personal experience:
' The police brought somethingorother charges against the guy who sold [a guitar stolen from my house] to [a privately owned musical instrument store a couple counties away], but it seems that the entirety of their 'investigation' consisted of reading my initial report and asking the store for the name and address on the sales slip. They apparently never talked to the guy, much less arrested him, prior to the court date.
Guy turns up, takes the stand, the prosecutor asks how he came to be in possession of my property, guy says he and a friend were driving along and see some other dude walking along carrying it in the rain. Says they gave him a ride, he offered to sell it, and they took him up on it. Prosecutor makes a sour face, says "Oh", whispers with the cops, whispers with the judge, judge sends everybody home. Never even put the guy's friend on the stand to corroborate. Last I heard of it. '
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On the bright side, it sounds like they didn't have enough evidence to arrest you outright...
http://legalcatch.wordpress.com/2006/10/31/maryland-felony-charge/
' Defendants can be compelled to appear in court either by serving the defendant with a summons or an arrest warrant. A summons is a document which is handed to the defendant by the Sheriff’s Office. The summons will provide a date and time to appear in court. Defendants can also be arrested and brought to court based on an arrest warrant. An arrest warrant is issued by a judge. Arrest warrants can only be issued if there is evidence of probable cause that the defendant committed a crime or crimes.
If the defendant has been charged through the filing of a Complaint, the defendant’s first appearance will be before magistrate judge. During the hearing, the defendant is informed of the charges against them, the maximum penalties that the court could impose if the defendant pleads or is found guilty of the charge. If the defendant has been arrested, the court will determine if the defendant can post a bond. The defendant will not be asked to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty during the initial appearance. During the hearing, the magistrate will schedule a time for the preliminary hearing.
During the preliminary hearing the prosecution is required to produce witnesses and evidence to establish probable cause that the defendant committed a crime or crimes. A failure to provide sufficient evidence could result in dismissal of the charge or charges. The magistrate is required to determine whether the prosecution has provided sufficient evidence for a conviction. The evidence does not have to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt but must be strong enough to provide a case against the defendant. The magistrate will dismiss charges that don’t have sufficient evidence of the complaint. If the prosecution produces sufficient evidence, the magistrate will require the defendant to appear in District Court to enter into a plea. The magistrate issues a commitment finding that the evidence that was provided is sufficient to move forward. '
my limited personal experience:
' The police brought somethingorother charges against the guy who sold [a guitar stolen from my house] to [a privately owned musical instrument store a couple counties away], but it seems that the entirety of their 'investigation' consisted of reading my initial report and asking the store for the name and address on the sales slip. They apparently never talked to the guy, much less arrested him, prior to the court date.
Guy turns up, takes the stand, the prosecutor asks how he came to be in possession of my property, guy says he and a friend were driving along and see some other dude walking along carrying it in the rain. Says they gave him a ride, he offered to sell it, and they took him up on it. Prosecutor makes a sour face, says "Oh", whispers with the cops, whispers with the judge, judge sends everybody home. Never even put the guy's friend on the stand to corroborate. Last I heard of it. '
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On the bright side, it sounds like they didn't have enough evidence to arrest you outright...
http://legalcatch.wordpress.com/2006/10/31/maryland-felony-charge/
' Defendants can be compelled to appear in court either by serving the defendant with a summons or an arrest warrant. A summons is a document which is handed to the defendant by the Sheriff’s Office. The summons will provide a date and time to appear in court. Defendants can also be arrested and brought to court based on an arrest warrant. An arrest warrant is issued by a judge. Arrest warrants can only be issued if there is evidence of probable cause that the defendant committed a crime or crimes.
If the defendant has been charged through the filing of a Complaint, the defendant’s first appearance will be before magistrate judge. During the hearing, the defendant is informed of the charges against them, the maximum penalties that the court could impose if the defendant pleads or is found guilty of the charge. If the defendant has been arrested, the court will determine if the defendant can post a bond. The defendant will not be asked to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty during the initial appearance. During the hearing, the magistrate will schedule a time for the preliminary hearing.
During the preliminary hearing the prosecution is required to produce witnesses and evidence to establish probable cause that the defendant committed a crime or crimes. A failure to provide sufficient evidence could result in dismissal of the charge or charges. The magistrate is required to determine whether the prosecution has provided sufficient evidence for a conviction. The evidence does not have to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt but must be strong enough to provide a case against the defendant. The magistrate will dismiss charges that don’t have sufficient evidence of the complaint. If the prosecution produces sufficient evidence, the magistrate will require the defendant to appear in District Court to enter into a plea. The magistrate issues a commitment finding that the evidence that was provided is sufficient to move forward. '
I DID IT! VICTORY IS MINE!
Dude testified and made a complete ass of himself. MY CHAMPION SPIRIT PREVAILED!!!!!
I may be crazy, but i'm no crook!
Now, I've gotta arrange some way to get the stuff I left at his house out. Hopefully, I can get a police escort and such so he can't file more bullshit on me.
Dude testified and made a complete ass of himself. MY CHAMPION SPIRIT PREVAILED!!!!!
I may be crazy, but i'm no crook!
Now, I've gotta arrange some way to get the stuff I left at his house out. Hopefully, I can get a police escort and such so he can't file more bullshit on me.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
AudioPhile777
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