First Clip: Boosted Rivera KTre w/ EQ

[flytrapx]

This is a recording I just finished using a Keeley TS-9 Boost into a Rivera KTre head with an EQ pedal in the FX Loop. The cab was a Bogner Uberkab 4x12 and I did 2 tracks miking the V30 and 2 miking the T75.

I was trying out a bunch of new techniques that I read about on this forum. Mainly, guitar eqing and compression "Sneap" style and drum eqing and compression from OzNimbus' post on acoustic drum recording. Thanks for all the info guys

It's the first song, Nocturnal Sacrifice.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=642228

Throw me back any suggestions or comments.

 

[meadows.83]

i think that shit sounds sweet dude. i just signed up here. i'd like to find out about some of those techniques as well. keep up the good work.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Are those drums real? If so then wow really good work dude. The guitars sound good to but they seem a little empty IMO.

 

[Tachy]

In my opinion guitars are a little thin but sound good...

 

[flytrapx]

Thanks for the comments! The drums were programmed with DFH and then mixed with tips from OzNimbus' extensive post on acoustic drum recording.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/217656-acoustic-drums-metal-guide.html

Check it out, it's a killer read.

As for the guitars, there seems to be something missing, like a "giantness" that I haven't been able to get. I recorded 2 tracks to each side and used some stereo eq and compression (Andy's c4 setting) on the group track but it doesn't come out huge. Can anyone give me a different perspective on why that might be? The guitar tone I like is a thick, mid heavy crunch that is tight but with not a lot of gain. Maybe I'm compressing it too much

 

[CJWall]

Thanks for the comments! The drums were programmed with DFH and then mixed with tips from OzNimbus' extensive post on acoustic drum recording.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/217656-acoustic-drums-metal-guide.html

Check it out, it's a killer read.

As for the guitars, there seems to be something missing, like a "giantness" that I haven't been able to get. I recorded 2 tracks to each side and used some stereo eq and compression (Andy's c4 setting) on the group track but it doesn't come out huge. Can anyone give me a different perspective on why that might be? The guitar tone I like is a thick, mid heavy crunch that is tight but with not a lot of gain. Maybe I'm compressing it too much

Sounds like you're hitting the C4 too hard are really maybe don't need it at all. Remember, not all guitar tracks are going to need the C4 and it's definitely not going to make them sound 'huge', it's really only helping the rest of the mix by not muddying it up.

You're problem sounds like mic placement and/or the placement of the cab in the room. Tracking a cab in a closet or very small space tends to cause some really weird early reflections and strange modal type sounds, especially when you start stacking the tracks up.

Try experimenting with different placement of the cab and mic..

 

[flytrapx]

Sounds like you're hitting the C4 too hard are really maybe don't need it at all. Remember, not all guitar tracks are going to need the C4 and it's definitely not going to make them sound 'huge', it's really only helping the rest of the mix by not muddying it up.

You're problem sounds like mic placement and/or the placement of the cab in the room. Tracking a cab in a closet or very small space tends to cause some really weird early reflections and strange modal type sounds, especially when you start stacking the tracks up.

Try experimenting with different placement of the cab and mic..

Thanks for the reply. The amp was in my unfinished basement that I've put some sound treatment in one corner, so I don't think I'm getting any boxiness or er's. The compression may be a bit much so I'll try a mix without it and see where it sits. It's crazy how things start to bunch up in a mix fast and give you a false sense of accuracy.