what are the advantages of a floyd rose compared to a standard bridge? and also what would you recommend and why?
that will happen regardless of brand, etc.sumairetsu said:if you are using one of the licensed versions of the vibrato, if you break a string, you're whole guitar goes out of tune since there may not be a locking feature.
I love the fact that my guitar will stay in perfect tune once the strings are stretched and locked. It adds a whole new dimension to your available sounds. I went from a solid bridge in '88 and I could never go back, they really work beautifully if set up correctly. Make sure you get the real thing, here's a link. http://www.floydrose.com/original.html I almost forgot, I learned a neat trick from a G.I.T grad, string the ball-end at the tuning key. This is great because when a string breaks(usually always at the bridge), you simply reel out more string and go right back to playing.ubiquitos said:what are the advantages of a floyd rose compared to a standard bridge? and also what would you recommend and why?
The "original floyd rose" is manufactured out of hardened steel and all of it's parts are machined to a fine tolerence. The licenced copies are in most cases cast rather than forged and made of inferior metals. The knife edges of my (1986) Floyd are the still as sharp as when it was installed. If you search the net, you will find many accounts of the licenced floyds suffering from a severe lack of tuning stability as well as generall durability. Once you get one of the (German-made) originals and compare it to the other stuff that's out there, you'll be amazed at the difference.Katalepsy said:I was actually wondering about the same thing (Advantages and Disadvantages), because I'm probably going to buy an ESP LTD MH-50 (I'm a cheap ass, it's all I can afford), and I wasn't sure whether it would be a good idea to switch from a tailpiece to a tremolo. And I'm curious...What exactly is the difference between a licensed Floyd Rose, and a Floyd Rose original? I never really picked up on that concept...
I am not familiar with the design specifications of any of the Floyd copies. I did look a Fender Strat with a licensed copy that was part of the Floyd-Rose/Fender partnership and it did seem identical, but that situation is the exception. I have noted that the routing templates do differ, so I would just wait, or get the real Floyd.Katalepsy said:Is the overall construction the same on both? I mean, aside from materials and such, but like, how the metals are molded to fit the body of the guitar (screw placement, etc.), so then I can look into replacing it in the future without having to worry about fixing anything on the body.
The strat I mentioned has a dead-on copy manufactured with the assistance of F-R, I wasn't suggesting that you get one. As far as ESP goes, you would need to contact them about any differences in specs between the two trems in question.Katalepsy said:I mean... What's the difference between a Floyd Original and the licensed ones on these: http://www.espguitars.com/ltd_mh.htm ? I wasn't talking about a Strat tremolo...
My real problem is that I don't have any income. I'm 17 years old and unemployed, so I wouldn't have enough money for a guitar with a Floyd original for a couple years (I have an amp to buy, and college to pay for soon as well). I wanted to know if it would be possible to replace the Lic. Floyd on the ESP MH-50 with a Floyd Original in the future and not have any problems in doing so. You may have said it somewhere, but I probably just missed it...
Yes!!!, a real Floyd Rose will give your guitar the voice of God, a cheap copy will give it the voice of Danny Devito.Feicht said:yeah real floyds are VASTLY superior to the "liscensed" ones. i have had both, and though it should seem like a no brainer, the real deal is infinitely better. you can do those divebombs and pullups without breaking strings (or your guitar, hehe), and there's alot of little tonal differences too, just in how everything sounds.
my advice would be to just save your money till you have enough for a real floyd, you'll be glad you did
Very true, if there is no serious need for one, then don't bother. I must admit that the guitar in my avatar is a strictly metal-only, purpose-built machine and there are times when it might be nice not to have to mess with all the strict procedures that come with a real floating Floyd.Bryant said:I am on the opposite end of the debate than my pal "Class of 85." I own a guitar with a "Floyd" and I love the guitar, but I wish it had a standard tremola on it. Every tremola will "dive bomb." Every tremola system will allow you to loosen the strings which will allow the note to go lower. Floyd Rose tremolas allow you to tighten the strings which brings the pitch of the note up as well.
It takes a long time to change strings on a Floyd because most have a locking system and fine tuners. I am waaaay too lazy for that shit. To be honest, it is not laziness, but the fact I use little tremola in my style of playing makes the Floyd unnecessary, so why take the extra time to string it up ?
If you use the "whammy" quite a bit in your style or like guitarists that do, I suggest a Floyd and it "looks" metal and impressive due to it's high number of machined parts, but if you don't use it, don't bother. I own a beautiful early model Peavey Vandenberg with a Floyd and I wouldn't take the world for it, but that is the only guitar I own with a Floyd and I doubt I will buy another.
Bryant
Makes perfect sense to me. I've been meaning to block the trem on one of my licensed Floyds for a while, but I just haven't done it yet. They do feel damn good on your picking hand.Ironbird666 said:I'm kind of an oddball when it comes to a floyd rose. I love the feel of one over a tailpiece but I never ever use the damn thing for dive bombs or other shit. I always block them off. Some of you guys may think I'm a dumbass or whatever, but I just love the bridge being so close to the body of the guitar. I feel like I ahve a lot more control that way. I have a Les Paul custom also (which I love . . ) but I still prefer the way my guitars with floyds feel. Now that I think of it, the only guitar that I didn't block off is my Ibanez 7 string, just never got around to doing it hehe. I will agree that the original is the way to go because when I actually used the trem it never went out of tune or broke strings.
Yes, if you play metal you'll want the option of all of your guitar's potential sounds. I played a solid-bridge for 4 years when I started and it took maybe an hour to really get used to having a tremolo, I could never go back.Katalepsy said:Do you (anyone) think that it would be a good idea to buy a guitar equipped with a Floyd Rose (Licensed or otherwise), for the experience (or any other reason)? Or do you think it might be somewhat difficult to adjust to it after having a tailpiece for the last 2 and a half years?