dont know if you guys have heard this yet....but Ibanez is sposed to be coming soon with the 8 string electric guitar...why you would need 8 dont know.
for 7 string players
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Jackal_Strain
Sigurd Løberg
It is in fact available, a grand and a half. I doubt it'll be jumped on as much as UV 7s were during the nu-metal craze, but we'll see how it goes.
Adding another string doesn't really hurt much of anything (unless you have tiny hands and can't play big necks) - I was amazed at what was opened up when I got my 7 string, and I don't doubt that I'd have a similar experience with an 8, so when a company I hate less than Ibanez starts doing 8s...
Jeff
Adding another string doesn't really hurt much of anything (unless you have tiny hands and can't play big necks) - I was amazed at what was opened up when I got my 7 string, and I don't doubt that I'd have a similar experience with an 8, so when a company I hate less than Ibanez starts doing 8s...
Jeff
They're out already. I'd be interested in picking up a used one after they've been out for about a year. Hopefully their resale value doesn't hold *crosses fingers* because you never know when you could use one. If nothing else, it's at least a pretty interesting conversation peice that's sitting at your studio or just laying around the house, yanno?
Plus, like JBroll, I'd be interested to see the things I could come up with having 8 strings to doodle on.
~e.a
Plus, like JBroll, I'd be interested to see the things I could come up with having 8 strings to doodle on.
~e.a
Jackal_Strain
Sigurd Løberg
My biggest concern about 8-strings is how to place the bass. Try tuning a normal bass an octave below an eight string guitar. F-L-O-P-P-Y!
That's why the recording gods invented the pitch shifter tool! I do it alot for basses that aren't exactly setup for B standard tuning *ahem 4-string Fender P-Basses ahem*. I get them to tune as low as possible before it gets too floppy, then pitch it the rest of the way. Comes out fine with some eq, comp, and C4. Also works well for guitar if you don't have a bass laying around...takes a little more work and I usually tend to try and hide the bass a little more when I use a guitar like that...but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do, eh?
~e.a
~e.a
In case anyone was interested in who has them in the states, check out the first listing from Drum City Guitar Land's 7-string page. $1,499 and they start shipping in April.
~e.a
~e.a
Meshuggah tunes their basses to the same octave as their guitars, so when they are doing single-note riffs, they are all essentially playing in unison.
Ben Johnson
SSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I believe Nothing is the first one, but I coud be wrong...I know for sure its either Nothing or one of the albums after that, because Chaosphere is definitely detuned 7-strings
RemoWilliams
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The 8 string market may be a bit more speciality then the 7 string (though I'm sure that was the same thought when 7 strings first came out). With the explosion of various cross pollinations or metal, I'm sure purchases may rise to do more breakdowns on the low strings, or just to add more "umph" to power chords. Though my first thoughts are still about the clarity. A tuning that low will need some good pickups and a tight amp and a good player. Really, I would love to hear 8 strings applied to a progressive/fusion thing. Like a good interplay between 8 string and keyboards. Who knows, maybe with time.
KeithRT99
BOOSH.
i think nothing was still seven strings, because they were having custom 8's made and they weren't done yet.
Fuentealba
Hyperblaster
I love playing jazz and fusion on a 7, and have no doubt that we'll see fun stuff happening in there if, say, Frank Gambale or John Petrucci (in his solo work) started picking them up more. Like I said, as soon as a better company than Ibanez is making them I'm going to jump right on it.
Jeff
Jackal_Strain
Sigurd Løberg
Deus.exe
BBQ!!!
I played one today at the Frankfurt Musikmesse.
Talk about spaghetti strings! The was such a lack of tention in the low strings that people with strong pick attack (like me) will have a hard time keeping the guitar from going out of tune. Also it only has a 27" scale which is in really not enough for such a low tuning. The fretboard width is thicker than that of a six sting bass. All those factors made it almost unplayable for my playing style.
It's not all bad though. The guitar has a suprisingly clear tone. Even through an Ibanez Thermion head with the gain at 3 O'clock it never muddied up once.
Talk about spaghetti strings! The was such a lack of tention in the low strings that people with strong pick attack (like me) will have a hard time keeping the guitar from going out of tune. Also it only has a 27" scale which is in really not enough for such a low tuning. The fretboard width is thicker than that of a six sting bass. All those factors made it almost unplayable for my playing style.
It's not all bad though. The guitar has a suprisingly clear tone. Even through an Ibanez Thermion head with the gain at 3 O'clock it never muddied up once.
Loren Littlejohn
Lover of all boobage.
I thought it was the 10 string that was supposed to be commming soon? I can't back that up at all. 
Benny H
Degenerate
The 1st version of Nothing was actually recorded with 7 strings tuned like the 8s were to be. They had tried 8s and had decided to go that way, but they didn't yet have a good enough 8 string guitar. As it turned out, doing it with a 7s tuned to F was not good either.. they would barely stay in tune for a whole riff. That's 1 improvement the re-recording has, you can actually properly hear what notes are being played.
I wish they'd piss them off. It's a cool idea and they've made some cool unique music with them, but I think they're restricting in their own way. Plus it actually loses heavyness without the bass doing the lower octave. Even if it was there it'd basically be inaudible (more or less just a presense), and would ad none of the low midrange growl that DEI and Chaosphere bass tones have. It's funny.. the pre 8 string albums are ultimately tuned lower. With 8 strings it's just like having 3 standard basses tuned UP a bit. Shit.
I wish they'd piss them off. It's a cool idea and they've made some cool unique music with them, but I think they're restricting in their own way. Plus it actually loses heavyness without the bass doing the lower octave. Even if it was there it'd basically be inaudible (more or less just a presense), and would ad none of the low midrange growl that DEI and Chaosphere bass tones have. It's funny.. the pre 8 string albums are ultimately tuned lower. With 8 strings it's just like having 3 standard basses tuned UP a bit. Shit.
70 is about as big as a guitar string is going to come, and I hate paying for bass strings. My idea of 'good tension' is 14-70 in C#; needless to say, I'd be using a 5-string bass set with some unwounds thrown on top. If it stays clear through all of that, though...
Jeff
Jeff
