For those of you OLD enough and BRAVE enough

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look up SALVIA DIVINORUM. Its the real deal.....

just ask the Maztec Indian Shamans of Northern Mexico.
 
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^^THAT is the real deal. just ask...me? :loco:
 
I've had some interesting experiences with Salvia, however they are mostly rather bugs-bunny cartoonish. I'm quite keen to try something stronger like egyptian delight - maybe I'll be able to get past the goofiness to something more substantial on a higher dose.
But a warning to anyone who smokes or eats the stuff - stay grounded!
Motor functions tend to start having a mind of their own, don't want anyone to accidently jump out their window or anything.
 
TheDreamingMind said:
I've had some interesting experiences with Salvia, however they are mostly rather bugs-bunny cartoonish. I'm quite keen to try something stronger like egyptian delight - maybe I'll be able to get past the goofiness to something more substantial on a higher dose.
But a warning to anyone who smokes or eats the stuff - stay grounded!
Motor functions tend to start having a mind of their own, don't want anyone to accidently jump out their window or anything.

Take a higher dose. Make sure you inhale as fast as possible, keep the fire on the extract, it takes heat of 200 F to burn the salvinorin A compound....if you must get two three pipes, load them all, then hit each right after the other....you get much more than bugs bunny trips....
 
you mean... those ill-witted enough? fuck drugs. if there is something that is going to make me jump out of a window, let it be me on my own free will. not some substance running through me
 
En Vind Av Sorg said:
Salvia is absolutely nuts. Ive had some of the most profound experiences of my life with the extracts. Completely legal too.

to hit the nail upon the head a bit closer to center, it is in fact illegal in Denmark and Oz...
 
dead6skin6mask6 said:
you mean... those ill-witted enough? fuck drugs. if there is something that is going to make me jump out of a window, let it be me on my own free will. not some substance running through me

I dont think you would jump, maybe in your mind..but yeah, normally, i would say fuck drugs as well, this stuff is not for everyone...
 
LM13 said:
Take a higher dose. Make sure you inhale as fast as possible, keep the fire on the extract, it takes heat of 200 F to burn the salvinorin A compound....if you must get two three pipes, load them all, then hit each right after the other....you get much more than bugs bunny trips....

Actually all my experiences on salvia have come from chewing the actual leaves so far (yeah nasty I know), so that might explain the somewhat lackluster trips. In other news... I dunno if anything can be as profound as 5+ grams of psliocybe cubensis, and to be honest I'm terrified at the notion lol. Sadly my country has just joined the majority of the world in banning psilocybe mushrooms in their raw state (BOGUS) so it will be a truffle feast from now on it seems.

LM13 said:
I dont think you would jump, maybe in your mind..but yeah, normally, i would say fuck drugs as well, this stuff is not for everyone...

Quite right sir, certainly not for the faint of heart. I worry that even I shouldnt've ventured, as I have payed the price for my curiosity. But still curiosity prevails and cats get untimely ripped apart...
 
TheDreamingMind said:
Actually all my experiences on salvia have come from chewing the actual leaves so far (yeah nasty I know), so that might explain the somewhat lackluster trips. In other news... I dunno if anything can be as profound as 5+ grams of psliocybe cubensis, and to be honest I'm terrified at the notion lol. Sadly my country has just joined the majority of the world in banning psilocybe mushrooms in their raw state (BOGUS) so it will be a truffle feast from now on it seems.



Quite right sir, certainly not for the faint of heart. I worry that even I shouldnt've ventured, as I have payed the price for my curiosity. But still curiosity prevails and cats get untimely ripped apart...


UUUGGGG! Yeah, very nasty to taste. Tell me if you will, what you did, how you prepared the leaves for chewing, did you make a QUID, or a couple cigars out of 12 or so leaves each, how long you chewed, did you swallow the whole time? Did you chew randomly for a few minutes at a time then store the leaves under your tongue for a few minutes, then chewed some more? Did you spit? smoking is teh best and most potent way...your trippijng within seconds after blowing out the smoke.

Salvia is the most potent drug of its kind known to man, when done properly, you will not find a better tripper...
 
TheDreamingMind said:
In other news... I dunno if anything can be as profound as 5+ grams of psliocybe cubensis, and to be honest I'm terrified at the notion lol. QUOTE]

try doing around 14 + grams of teh shrooms....oh yeah, salvia smoked in large doses, by large i mean this,....the first time i tried it i smoked extract that was 20 times the potentency of leaves....i loaded up 4 pipes, hit them as fast and ahrd a si could, in the mean time my sister loaded another and handed it to me....as was blowing out th esmoke from the 5th hit, i saw my right eye closed with my left eye, as face stretched and curved into view of my OWN EYES....it got even more profound after that, i dont feel the need to explain the trip any further. for two reasons, its nearly undescribable, plus, its a bit out there and personal...

but as i was saying before i alluded, salvia in just the right dose surpasses all other hallucinagins
 
The most potent Salvia experiences I have had came from water pipes, and using a butane lighter to heat the salvia quicker. The only thing ive done that was more insane and out there than Saliva was an Ayhuasca brew. DMT is a very perplexing substance.
 
ledmag13 said:
UUUGGGG! Yeah, very nasty to taste. Tell me if you will, what you did, how you prepared the leaves for chewing, did you make a QUID, or a couple cigars out of 12 or so leaves each, how long you chewed, did you swallow the whole time? Did you chew randomly for a few minutes at a time then store the leaves under your tongue for a few minutes, then chewed some more? Did you spit? smoking is teh best and most potent way...your trippijng within seconds after blowing out the smoke.

Lol it's the inquisition... okay I made a quid, not cigars, yes i used that handy under-the-tongue-store technique, not entirely sure how long I chewed for I tend not to keep time pieces around me but I'd say under an hour. I did not spit and tried my best not to keep the swallows infrequent and big :yuk:. As for smoking I'm a bit of a health freak and tend to avoid it like the plague. But on the subject of strength does anyone know anything about using MAOIs with salvia?
 
En Vind Av Sorg said:
The most potent Salvia experiences I have had came from water pipes, and using a butane lighter to heat the salvia quicker. The only thing ive done that was more insane and out there than Saliva was an Ayhuasca brew. DMT is a very perplexing substance.

What I've found so spectacular about ayahuasca is that during the whole ordeal you are still YOU (for the sake of consciousness). It's not an altered state as much as some sort of... door. I often have a dream in which I am struggling towards a door, but when I get to it and try to open it I am ejected from the dream. What ayahuasca allowed me to do was open it and see this.. place.. thing.. that reminded me of some sort of crazy marketplace (although I wasnt long there before being ejected once more). Do you know what I'm talking about here?
 
TheDreamingMind said:
Lol it's the inquisition... okay I made a quid, not cigars, yes i used that handy under-the-tongue-store technique, not entirely sure how long I chewed for I tend not to keep time pieces around me but I'd say under an hour. I did not spit and tried my best not to keep the swallows infrequent and big :yuk:. As for smoking I'm a bit of a health freak and tend to avoid it like the plague. But on the subject of strength does anyone know anything about using MAOIs with salvia?

The inquisition!..I like that lol. Well, soudns like you did it right way, im sure yuo got the full effects of salvia, or at least teh fullest effects you can get without smoking.

the problem with eating teh stuff, is the compound salvinorin A, it takes around 200 to 500 micrograms to get extreme effects, well, the leaves, are really not loaded with the compound, and the 200 to 500 micrograms needs to be in teh body pretty much at once to get the trip. Orally, the compound is slowly being soaked into your mucouse membranes. SLowly being the key word here...it needs to be fast..
 
En Vind Av Sorg said:
The most potent Salvia experiences I have had came from water pipes, and using a butane lighter to heat the salvia quicker. The only thing ive done that was more insane and out there than Saliva was an Ayhuasca brew. DMT is a very perplexing substance.

yeah, fast and HEAT ae the keys to salvia.

DMT is a devil of a drug...but i still say for me...SALVIA.