Let's get these guys at the next show!!! Dan Zimmerman and the boys would be awesome to see live. Anyone else thnik these guys kick some serious power metal ass???
Freedom Call!!!
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Jim LotFP
The Keeper of Metal
... for every "Oh God no", there are 20 "Oh God, Hell Yeah's!"
Seriously though, is your Confuscious saying the reason why you don't like them, or is it something else? I can admit, the stuff can get repetitive, but most power metal (to me) is repetitive; and all I care about is if it is done well. To me Freedom Call do a great job.
If you want someone a bit different without the ordinary high vocals, how about Stygma IV. A great band that definitely deserves more recognition.
Seriously though, is your Confuscious saying the reason why you don't like them, or is it something else? I can admit, the stuff can get repetitive, but most power metal (to me) is repetitive; and all I care about is if it is done well. To me Freedom Call do a great job.
If you want someone a bit different without the ordinary high vocals, how about Stygma IV. A great band that definitely deserves more recognition.
Hell no from me too.
And your right on the reason. I dont mind repetitive, but sometimes alot of Power Metal is TOO MUCH the same shit.
The following bands IMO only suffer from this fate....
Sonata Arctica
Freedom Call
Startovarius
Rhapsody
Wizzards (Not Wizards from Brasil who are awesome)
Theres more but you get the hint.
And your right on the reason. I dont mind repetitive, but sometimes alot of Power Metal is TOO MUCH the same shit.
The following bands IMO only suffer from this fate....
Sonata Arctica
Freedom Call
Startovarius
Rhapsody
Wizzards (Not Wizards from Brasil who are awesome)
Theres more but you get the hint.
woosta
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chibitotoro
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That's all well and good, but I don't understand why no one ever includes Gamma Ray on lists like that. They've been around for so long, but they haven't grown musically in the slightest, while Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica both have. And they do it with more skill than Gamma Ray. I don't mind a little Gamma Ray here and there, but I don't understand why they're hailed as such metal gods, when there are infinitely superior bands out there.
woosta
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Did you see the Gamma Ray show this year? That, in itself, is reason to hail them as gods. And I was only a marginal fan before they played.
chibitotoro
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Yes, of course I saw them. Edguy, Angra, and Silent Force were all much more impressive, in my opinion...and I enjoy their studio stuff much more. The same problem I have with their albums is the same problem I had with their performance. Every song just ran together, so at times when my attention wained, I wasn't sure what song was playing when I started paying attention again...the same one that was playing before, or a new one, or perhaps even several songs had passed.
MadeInNewJersey
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I love Freedom Call and I'd love to see them at PP IV. But I'd rather go see them with other fans who love them as opposed to having to defend them from prog-nuts. So if that's the case, I'll get my Freedom Call fix elsewhen.
Wings of a dream
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Because thats MY OPINION.
And I agree Gamma Ray should be lumped in that group as well. Theres more too, Im just not thinking properly right now hehe!
Im all for Power Metal but it really gets over redundant.
Thats why I like Pagans Mind so much. Even bands like Edguy, and Angra keep it fresh (as well as alot of other bands).
Dream Evil, and Hammerfall are starting to really get the knack how to keep power metal fresh. Both bands new CDs I think are really good!
And I agree Gamma Ray should be lumped in that group as well. Theres more too, Im just not thinking properly right now hehe!
Im all for Power Metal but it really gets over redundant.
Thats why I like Pagans Mind so much. Even bands like Edguy, and Angra keep it fresh (as well as alot of other bands).
Dream Evil, and Hammerfall are starting to really get the knack how to keep power metal fresh. Both bands new CDs I think are really good!
Tess
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I'm not familiar with them, but I'd say "Oh God, Hell Yeah!" if it's power metal ... I just can't help but love power metal no matter how cheesy or repetitive it may be sometimes ...
So ... I'll add them to my list of bands to check out ...
So ... I'll add them to my list of bands to check out ...
junnie from the east
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hehehe I LOVE Freedom Call!!! and I can't wait to get the full length album from Masterplan!!! and of course Dream Evils.. both will be released on 27 Jan, i'll run to the CD store on that day 
chazzyf
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Yeah! Freedom Call would be a good choice. They've been great on the couple of occcasions I've seen them live and are (IMHO) far more interesting than the likes of Gamma Ray (yawn - and yes I have seen them 3 times in the last year or so), Sonarta Arctica (who took a turn for the worse with Silence) or the absolutely yawn-inducing Blind Guardian (I'd have slept through most of their set in Atlanta, but some bastard kept waking me up). Oh, and yeah ... I'm one of those 'prog-heads' too.
A 'prog-head' with lousy taste in Power-Metal perhaps 
A 'prog-head' with lousy taste in Power-Metal perhaps
Prog-snob alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, I'm a fan of BOTH sides of this eternal battle.
Hammerfall getting the knack to keep metal fresh? I don't think so, and the best stuff I've heard Gus G. do was on the Firewind cd. Don't you think the over abundance of prog-wankery is just as over redundant? It's over saturation on both sides of the fence. As this festival grows, less & less people are going to be 100% happy with the lineup. For me, this past November's lineup was a dream come true. I hope Glen tops it this year, I know I'll be there!
J-Dubya - two words, FREAK KITCHEN!
Originally posted by JayDubya
Prog-snob alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, I'm a fan of BOTH sides of this eternal battle.
Hammerfall getting the knack to keep metal fresh? I don't think so, and the best stuff I've heard Gus G. do was on the Firewind cd. Don't you think the over abundance of prog-wankery is just as over redundant? It's over saturation on both sides of the fence. As this festival grows, less & less people are going to be 100% happy with the lineup. For me, this past November's lineup was a dream come true. I hope Glen tops it this year, I know I'll be there!
J-Dubya - two words, FREAK KITCHEN!
Prog Snob? LOL hardly dude.
I love people who judge others over one small comment. Heres some bands in my CD collection.
Angelica - Angelica/Rock , stock , and barrel (2 in 1 CD)
Angelica - Greatest hits
Angra - Rebirth
Angra - Acid Rain (Demo Single)
Angra - Hunters and prey
Anguish - Symmetry
Annihilator - Set the World on Fire
Annihilator - Phoenix Rising (Single)
Annihilator - Bag of Tricks
Arachnes - Parallel Worlds
Arachnes - The Goddess Temple (remastered)
Arachnes - Metamorphosis
Arch Rival - Third degree burns
Ark Storm - No Boundaries (Katsu Ohta)
Armageddon - Embrace the mystery
Armageddon - Three
Armored Saint - Symbol of Salvation
At Vance - Only Human
At Vance - Dragonchaser
Avalon - Eurasia
Avantasia - The Metal Opera
Avantasia - The Metal Opera (Japanese Release)
Avantasia - S/T (Single)
Avantasia - The Metal Opera Part 2 (European Release)
Avantasia - The Metal Opera Part 2 (USA Release)
Ayreon - Flight of the Migrator
Babylon A.D - S/T
Babylon A.D - The kid goes Wild (Single)
Bangalore Choir - On Target
Benoit , David - Every step of the Way
Bonfire - Don't touch the light
Bonfire - Fireworks (USA Release)
Bonfire - Fireworks (European Release)
Bonfire - 29 Golden Bullets
Bonfire - Live Over Europe
Brave - Battle Cries
Britney Fox - Bite Down Hard
Britney Fox - Bite Down Hard (The Demos)
Brooks , Chris - Master Plan
Burning Point - Salvation by Fire
Burning Rain - S/T
Chalice - Digital Boulevard
Chalice - Chameleonation
Cold Sweat - Break Out
Conditioned Response - Pavlovs Dog
Consortium Project 2 - Continuum Extremis
Crimson Glory - S/T
Crimson Glory - Transcedence
Crystal Roxx - Pass the Buck
Dark Sky - Believe It
Dark Sky - Edge of Time
DC Cooper - S/T
Defyance - Transitional Forms
Dionysus - Sign Of Truth
Dirty Rhythm - Hard as a Rock
Dokken - Under lock and key
D'Priest - Ride you through the night (CD single)
Dream Evil - Dragonslayer (USA Release)
Driver - S/T studio version (Feat. Rob Rock , and Roy Z)
Driver - S/T demo version (Feat. Rob Rock , and Roy Z)
Dungeon - Resurrection
Dyslesia - Who dares wins
Edguy - Kingdom of Madness
Edguy - Vain Glory Opera
Edguy - Theater of Salvation
Edguy - The Savage Poetry
Edguy - Mandrake
Edguy - Painting The Walls (CD single)
Eidolon - Zero Hour
Eidolon - Seven Spirits
Eidolon - Seven Spirits (Canadian Release Bonus Tracks)
Eidolon - Nightmare World
Eidolon - Hollowed Apparition
Eidolon - Coma Nation
Empire - Hypnotica
Enevoldsen, Torben - Guitarisma
Enevoldsen, Torben - Heavy Persuasion
Europe - The Final countdown
Europe - The Final countdown (Reissue)
Europe - Definitive Collection
Europe - 1982 - 1992
Europe - 1982 - 2000
Europe - Rock the night Away
Europe - Super Hits
Europe - Out of this World
Europe - Superstitious (CD single)
Evidence One - Criticize the Truth
Fear Not - S/T
Ferrari , Marc - Guest List
Firewind - S/T (Gus G on guitar)
Firewind - Between Heaven And Hell (USA Release)
Fozzy - Happenstance
Francis , Chris - S/T
Frontline - State of rock
Frontline - Two faced accoustics
Frontline - Right attitude
Frontline - Against the world
Gemini - S/T (Lance King Ex-band)
Gemini - Out for Blood (Lance King Ex-band)
Genius - Episode 1 (A Rock Opera)
Giuntini Project II - S/T
Gray , Broderick - Metal Machine
Gray , Broderick - Mythic Realms
Gus G - Guitar master series
Hammerfall - Legacy of Kings
Hammerfall - Crimson Thunder
Heavens Edge - S/T
Holy Soldier - S/T
House of Lords - S/T
House of Lords - S/T (Reissue)
Impellitteri - S/T (EP)
Impellitteri - Stand in line
Impellitteri - Victim of the system (7 song EP)
Impellitteri - Grin and bear it
Impellitteri - Answer to the master
Impellitteri - Eye of the Hurricane / Victim of the System (Double CD set)
Impellitteri - Crunch / Screaming Symphony (Double CD set)
Impellitteri - Live! fast! loud!
Impellitteri - System X
Impellitteri - Best Of
Impellitteri - Fuel for the fire
Johnson, Rob - S/T
Johnson, Rob - Peripheral
Johnson, Rob - Guitarchitecture
Killer Dwarfs - Dirty Weapons
King James - S/T
Kotipelto - Waiting for the dawn
Last Tribe - The Ritual
Last Tribe - Witch Dance
Lillian Axe - 1987-1989
Lillian Axe - Poetic Justice
Lillian Axe - Psychoschizophrenia
Lillian Axe - Live 2002
Lions Share - Fall from Grace
Lions Share - Entrance
Liquid Tension Experiment - S/T
Liquid Tension Experiment 2 - S/T
Lizzy Borden - Visual Lies
Lizzy Borden - Master Of Disguise
Magnitude 9 - Chaos to Control
Magnitude 9 - Reality in Focus
Malmsteen , Yngwie - Trilogy
Malmsteen , Yngwie - Odyssey
Mass - Voices in the Night
Masterplan - Enlighten Me (Single)
Meduza - Now and Forever
Metalium - Hero nation / Chapter 3
Missa Mercuria - A Rock Opera
Moore , Vinnie - Meltdown
Morifade - Across the starlit sky
Morifade - Possession of power
Morifade - Imaginarium
MSG - S/T
Mystic Prophecy - Vengeance
Nightmare - Cosmovision
Nitro - OFR
Nocturnal Rites - Tales of mystery and imagination
Nocturnal Rites - The sacred talisman
Nocturnal Rites - Afterlife
Nocturnal Rites - Shadowland
Norway - Arrival
Novella - One big sky
Oratory - Illusion Dimensions
Pagans Mind - Infinity Divine
Pagans Mind - Celestial Entrance
Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
Parish - Envision
Pavlovs Dogs - Conditioned Response
Pegazus - Wings of destiny
Pegazus - Breaking the chains
Pegazus - The headless horseman
Pell, Axel Rudi - Nasty reputation
Pink Cream 69 - Electrified
Pink Cream 69 - Shame (Single)
Pink Cream 69 - Sonic Dynamite
Pink Cream 69 - Mixery
Pride - Far from the Edge
Project Driver - M A R S
Psyco Drama - The Illusion
Psyco Drama - Bent
Queensryche - Greatest Hits
Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime/Queen of the Reich (Limited Edition)
Racer X - Extreme Volume Live
Racer X - Street Lethal
Racer X - Superheroes
Racer X - Snowball of doom
Rattlebone - S/T (Mike LePond ex band)
Reverend - S/T
Reverend - Live
Riot - Thundersteel
Riot - The Priviledge of Power
Rob Rock - Rage Of Creation (USA Release)
Romeo , Michael - The Dark Chapter
Sanvoisen - Soul Seasons
Savatage - Edge of thorns
Savatage - Live in Japan
Savatage - The best and the rest
Saigon Kick - Water
Santana - Marathon
SeventhSign - Perpetual Destiny 2.1
Shakra - Power ride
Shaman - Ritual
SIAM - The Language Of Menace (Limited Edition)
SIAM - Prayer
Silverspoon - Sink or Swim (Pre Pagans Mind)
Sircle Of Silence - S/T
Sircle Of Silence - Suicide candyman
Silent Voices - Chapters of tragedy
Silent Force - Infatuator
Skid Row - S/T
Skid Row - 4 seasons/Best Of
Slik Toxik - Doin The Nasty
Star One - Space metal
Stride - Music Machine
Stryper - In God we Trust
Stryper - To Hell with the Devil
Stryper - Cant Stop the Rock 1984-1991 Collection
Superior - Behind
Talon - S/T
Takara - Taste of Heaven
Takara - Eternity
Ten - Spellbound
Ten - Babylon
Ten - Far Beyond The World
Thunderstone - S/T
Thunderstone - Virus (CD Single)
Token - Tomorrowland
Treasure Land - Questions
Treasure Land - Gateway
Trouble Tribe - S/T
Tunnelvision - While the World Awaits
Tunnelvision - Tomorrow
Twelfth Gate - S/T (Demo 2001)
USM - Silver Step child
Valleys Eve - Perception of pain
Vanishing Point - In thought
Vanishing Point - Tangled in Dream
Vicious Rumors - S/T
Vision Divine - Send Me An angel
Von Groove - S/T
Warrant - Dog Eat Dog
Warrant - Best of
Wizards - S/T
Wizards - Sound of life
Wizards - The Kingdom
Xteria - Outshine
XYZ - S/T
XYZ - Hungry
XYZ - Take what You Can Live
Z-Lot-Z - S/T
Z-Lot-Z - Tearing At Your Mind (Reissue)
Oh yeah Im such a huge prog snob.
chibitotoro
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Jesus Christ man, I think you could've given us the general idea of your thoughts without that ridiculously long list.
Apparently the smiley slipped by you......Take a Midol, man.
It's all good, I'm not judging anynbody......
J-Dubya
It's all good, I'm not judging anynbody......
J-Dubya
Nah no need to give a detailed explanation. I think its silly for someone to call me a prog snob just because Im not a fan of over redundant/repetitive, super fast E string picking, uptempo doublebass power metal. ITs fine , until 80% of your CD is consumed with it.
Yes Dubya I saw the smile but Im pretty sure you had me tagged as a "prog snob" regardless.
Jim LotFP
The Keeper of Metal
Well you would seem like more of a prog snob if you put back the 234623784236846237842368423428 Dream Theater and Vanden Plas CDs you had listed there til you changed the list.
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