I would love to know why gardenian is slowly killing them selves off , they put out sindustries then had some label problems wich left them homeless .. there a good band...thats why i cant figure out why they arent signed yet and why they cant seem to update there sight or post on any type of forum or anything and let people know that they still have a pulse or are done ...there not that big popularity wise ,they need to inform the fans they do have or they will lose them and fade into obscurity