I'm gonna try setting up my own guitar, anyone know a good site or provide me with the information on how too? Jackson Dinky with a Lic. Floyd, Thanks
good site for setting up guitar ?
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guitarguru1969
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http://www.imuso.co.uk/directory/guitar-lessons/floyd-rose-trem.htm
http://www.glowingtubes.com/p/FloydTuning.htm
http://www.floydrose.com/originaltremolo.html
I have seup hundreds of FR guitars so if ya have any questions drop me a line.
http://www.glowingtubes.com/p/FloydTuning.htm
http://www.floydrose.com/originaltremolo.html
I have seup hundreds of FR guitars so if ya have any questions drop me a line.
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guitarguru1969
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I am in the Overland Park area, right on the Kansas Missouri border. Any guitar repair you could send my way would be mucho appriciado. Hell if you send me some new business we will have to talk free setups for you if you are near me. Appreciate the thought my friend!
slashvanyoung
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Hey guru, I have a problem too. Maybe you can help me out?
I've got my Floyd-equipped guitars (Dean From Hell ML and Jackson Dinky) tuned down to b-standard and I'm using the GHS Zakk Wylde Lo strings. I have some Intonation problems on both guitars with the g and h strings (d and f# respectively) but only on the lower frets. If I put to much pressure on those strings at - let's say - the 2nd fret the pitch goes up. And by "to much pressure" I mean just normal pressure. You can basically do some kind of vibrato on those spots just by moving the finger up and down. And that sucks because I always have to pay attention to that or certain chords will sound like shit.
You have any tips concerning that?
I've got my Floyd-equipped guitars (Dean From Hell ML and Jackson Dinky) tuned down to b-standard and I'm using the GHS Zakk Wylde Lo strings. I have some Intonation problems on both guitars with the g and h strings (d and f# respectively) but only on the lower frets. If I put to much pressure on those strings at - let's say - the 2nd fret the pitch goes up. And by "to much pressure" I mean just normal pressure. You can basically do some kind of vibrato on those spots just by moving the finger up and down. And that sucks because I always have to pay attention to that or certain chords will sound like shit.
You have any tips concerning that?
guitarguru1969
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Is the note "bowing?" By that I mean is the note when fretted normaly pitching up then settling down in pitch as the note rings out? I have that prob with a few of my FR guitars. I installed a tremsetter and have never looked back. The only thing this item prevents you from doing is the trem bar flutter trick where you flick the bar and the note goes brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr. The thing about floyds is that they allow notes to "bow" a lot. Try this. tune your guitar up and play the 12th fret of your high string. Now bend your next string at the 15th fret and bend that string at the 15th up one pitch until the notes match, standard tuned guitar this would be the high E and B strings, bend the B to match the E. See what the tuner reads as your matched note. Usually about 10 cents flat from the E note. Thus the bridge gave way and didn't stay in place for the bend. If you can see your bridge moving while you make big bends, up a pitch or more especially on the thick strings, you may benefit from this. Plus the difference in string gauge between the wound strings and plain strings in that set is soooooo great, what may feel like normal tensoin to your fingers may feel greater on the plain unwound string. Thus pulling them tighter and sharper. And I am assuming you meant G and B strings?
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
Yeah, I meant the G and B strings (I accidentally used the German expression, the B-string is called H there).
I have a tremsetter laying around somewhere, but it's different from the popular Hipshot ones. It looks like this (it just blocks the trem in one direction):
Maybe I should try a different set of strings with a wound G-string. I tried this before and I think I hadn't had the problem with them but I switched back to the ZW set because the trem was so well-balanced with it.
Thanks for the info, man!
I have a tremsetter laying around somewhere, but it's different from the popular Hipshot ones. It looks like this (it just blocks the trem in one direction):
Maybe I should try a different set of strings with a wound G-string. I tried this before and I think I hadn't had the problem with them but I switched back to the ZW set because the trem was so well-balanced with it.
Thanks for the info, man!
guitarguru1969
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I like the option of a thicker wound G string myself. It helps balance the tension of the set more evenly. The ZW set has a huge tension drop between wound and unwound strings. You can always rebalance the trem with a different set of strings. The tremsetters that block in one direction are cool if you don't want to bend up in pitch with the bar, thus. The hipshot version is more cumbersome to adjust but still lets you pull back on the trem arm. The difference is with the setters on is that you need to apply more pressure to the bar to get it to move. AHHHHHHHHHHHH the obsticles of a finely tuned guitar. Just as tempermental as a fine woman.
I have one of the above one-way things too, the ESP Arming Adjuster, and what kicks ass about it is that it doesn't fully block upward motion, just restricts it a lot (though it can block it if you want, just tighten the screw that compresses the spring), which is super useful for stabilizing so heavy palm muting doesn't send the guitar into hysterics. As for strings, I tried one of those light top/heavy bottom sets and fucking hated it; the tension on the top strings was just pitifully loose, so more than likely that's the reason the pitch changes when you press down on the string, not any issue with the Floyd.
And yeah, although I prefer the feel of an unwound G, I wouldn't use one in any tuning beneath C standard.
And yeah, although I prefer the feel of an unwound G, I wouldn't use one in any tuning beneath C standard.
MetallyGuitarded
He whom thou art not
Yeah, I meant the G and B strings (I accidentally used the German expression, the B-string is called H there).
I have a tremsetter laying around somewhere, but it's different from the popular Hipshot ones. It looks like this (it just blocks the trem in one direction):
Maybe I should try a different set of strings with a wound G-string. I tried this before and I think I hadn't had the problem with them but I switched back to the ZW set because the trem was so well-balanced with it.
Thanks for the info, man!
Dude, what kinda 'trem-setter' is that? I've been looking for something like that!!
BTW - if the notes on the low end of the fretboard, first 4-5 frets are off, I think that's just a combination of the tempered system we tune with and intonation. If you read up on the Earvana nuts and Compensated nuts they explain how/why most guitars suffer the same inconsistencies with lower fretted notes.
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
The one in the picture - the same I have laying around - is the Rockinger Black Box. It used to be available from http://rockinger.com/index.php?lang=ENG and was hugely popular. But it seems like it's discontinued now. I have no idea why.
But you could try to find the one Metaltastic is reffering, too.
Again, thanks for your thoughts guys. I think I'll try out a 7-string set next and just use the lower six strings. That way the G string will be wound, too.
@MetallyGuitarded: Yeah, I've read about how adjusting the nut (cutting it deeper) could fix the problem I'm having. But that's just not possible with the nut on a Floyd system.
This really is a science or an art on its own.
On a primary guitar, yes, but I love the extra potential for expressiveness having a whammy affords me, so I need at least one guitar with it
