Grind

[J.]

Probably not a favorite among the RC crowd, as most here prefer "arty" bands over pure pummeling or brutality (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Since I couldn't find a thread dedicated strictly for grind bands, I thought we might as well have one.

So what grind bands does everyone like? Or is grind taboo around here?

Brutal Truth

 

[NAD]

I like grind but don't love it enough to have any real standout albums, unless you count some Carcass and Cannibal Corpse albums. Oh and Napalm Death - Scum of course.

 

[Krilons Resa]

Brutal Truth rule. I also enjoy Pig Destroyer, Watchmaker, and Nasum a lot.

 

[JayKeeley]

Are Bolt Thrower grind?

 

[Krilons Resa]

Ya, I gotta be in the right mood for Grind. Usually if I'm drinking instead of toking.

 

[J.]

I always thought CC were death metal.

Anyone self respecting metal fan must have at least one Brutal Truth album. Goddamnfuckingpummelyourassitwill (and that's a good thing)

 

[J.]

Bolt Thrower's first two are considered grind I believe. PJ can probably confirm.

 

[Black Winter Day]

Watchmaker, Mistress and Crowpath come to mind.

 

[NAD]

I should get some Brutal Truth. Watchmaker kicks ass.

I would consider Cannibal Corpse grind just because they oftentimes have a lot of stop-start and odd tempo stuff. I guess it's debateable though.

 

[J.]

I need to hear Crowpath.

I think Mistress is considered sludge along with Goatsblood, Eyehategod and Iron Monkey.

 

[J.]

Brutal Truth's Need to Control is the cat's fucking ass.

Abaddon Incarnate is also fucking good, and of course you can't forget about Scald, who are much more than just a grind band.

 

[Krilons Resa]

I actually was listening to my Sounds of The Animal Kingdom cassette in my car a couple weeks ago. ha

 

[JayKeeley]

Bolt Thrower's first two are considered grind I believe. PJ can probably confirm.

Yeah, I have the Peel Sessions CD and I don't like that material as much as their later stuff. To be honest, I think Bolt Thrower are better when they're playing their good old battle/death metal a la For Victory or IVth Crusade.

 

[Black Winter Day]

Okay then.

Willowtip unleashes the best stuff (by far).

Are Rune grind? Then them too.

 

[J.]

That album is insane. One of the coolest covers ever.

 

[JayKeeley]

Perhaps a definition of what the fuck grind EXACTLY is might be required...heh. Goatsblood, Rune, Cannibal Corpse, Watchmaker....I'm not seeing many similarities.

 

[Krilons Resa]

Goatsblood, RUne, and Cannibal Corpse are not grind but do have some grind elements worked into their music...more so the former 2.

 

[J.]

I've never considered CC to be grind. Goatsblood is sludge. I thought Watchmaker was like blackened grind or something.

Rune is grind, but throw in doom elements.

 

[Nate The Great]

Grind started as an extreme version of punk. Napalm Death 'Scum' is probably the first true grind album. Grind eventually transformed into stuff like Carcass and now Nasum. About a billion bands are now lumped into the grind category, because they don't fit anywhere else. Thus, Watchmaker, Goatsblood, Crowpath, etc. are stuck in the gring category by a lot of people. Grind didn't start out as technical and precise. That is just the modern version of it.

I saw Brutal Truth open for Cannibal Corpse in 1996. Brutal Truth sang songs about killing cops and stuff. I still have the Trend, Kill, Suicide (or whatever its called) EP from that show.

 

[Papa Josh]

Cannibal are not grind, neither is Bolt Thrower, but they do have elements, ala the blastbeats.

My fave grind....

Napalm Death- From Enslavement To Obliteration