Guitars are out of phase I think

[hks350d]

I have been doing this 4 guitars panned hard left/right thing and noticed they're never really loud enough. I opened up pazanalyzer and noticed that I'm getting quite a bit of anti-phase between them all.

Has anyone ran into this problem?
What are some solutions to this?

Also I'm using different amp sims on each side like this Left(pod/revalver) Right (revalver/pod)

Here's the actual song as well

 

[Eduardo Apolonia]

I'm not listening to it, but have you tried to flip the phase on one of the sides?

 

[hks350d]

That should have been the first thing I tried but for some reason i didn't think of that.

I'm not at my desk right now but I will def try that asap.

 

[Fandus]

assuming you played each side 2 times for a total of 4 takes, sometimes sloppy playing can make this sound out of phase. to pull off quad tracking the duplicates must be played extremely tight, otherwise don't do it at all.

 

[hks350d]

It's pretty tight but would warping the picks onto the transient make this phase problem?

 

[Eduardo Apolonia]

In my opinion, the out of phase sound when quad tracking happens more when it is too tight.

A guitar player that is very very precise (or edited to 100% grid) and consistent at picking may have phase issues because the waves are very much alike and are only a few ms off. And that can cause phase issues.

 

[RichS]

You guys must have better ears than I do. I cant hear any phasing in that dense mix. So much going on.