Happy Fourth Of July!
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darthrya
Maiden fan since I was 9
Happy 4th to everyone! Be safe!
Here's a bit of history: I celebrated on the 2nd since that is the "real" day for American independence. The rebel colonists of the 2nd Continental Congress, which had been debating independence since 7 June, finally agreed on 2 July to separate from Britain. The congressmen assigned Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Roger Sherman, and Roger Livinston to draft a formal document. TJ wrote it with some corrections from the others, and then the majority signed the document on the 4th (the last signature weren't until August or possible as late as October/November - historians aren't too sure).
On 3 July, Adams wrote to his wife, Abigail, that July 2nd would be the most celebrated day in America. His prophecy was clearly wrong, and more importantly, this whole thing shows the American precedent that nothing counts until it is put on paper.
Here's a bit of history: I celebrated on the 2nd since that is the "real" day for American independence. The rebel colonists of the 2nd Continental Congress, which had been debating independence since 7 June, finally agreed on 2 July to separate from Britain. The congressmen assigned Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Roger Sherman, and Roger Livinston to draft a formal document. TJ wrote it with some corrections from the others, and then the majority signed the document on the 4th (the last signature weren't until August or possible as late as October/November - historians aren't too sure).
On 3 July, Adams wrote to his wife, Abigail, that July 2nd would be the most celebrated day in America. His prophecy was clearly wrong, and more importantly, this whole thing shows the American precedent that nothing counts until it is put on paper.
Metallicat180
Rockstar-In-Training
Happy 4th to everyone! Be safe!
Here's a bit of history: I celebrated on the 2nd since that is the "real" day for American independence. The rebel colonists of the 2nd Continental Congress, which had been debating independence since 7 June, finally agreed on 2 July to separate from Britain. The congressmen assigned Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Roger Sherman, and Roger Livinston to draft a formal document. TJ wrote it with some corrections from the others, and then the majority signed the document on the 4th (the last signature weren't until August or possible as late as October/November - historians aren't too sure).
On 3 July, Adams wrote to his wife, Abigail, that July 2nd would be the most celebrated day in America. His prophecy was clearly wrong, and more importantly, this whole thing shows the American precedent that nothing counts until it is put on paper.
That is an awesome bit of trivia there!!
Happy 4th to all Americans!!!
darthrya
Maiden fan since I was 9
Yeah, you better wish us a happy 4th, otherwise we'll declare independence from British music!Happy 4th to all Americans!!!
Jenna, does the UK celebrate the Glorious Revolution like we celebrate our independence, or do Britons celebrate another day (or none at all)?
Schmidt_Rubin
Member
Metallicat180
Rockstar-In-Training
Yeah, you better wish us a happy 4th, otherwise we'll declare independence from British music!
Jenna, does the UK celebrate the Glorious Revolution like we celebrate our independence, or do Britons celebrate another day (or none at all)?
Your loss!!
The only thing we would celebrate would be the days of our patron saints. For example, St Andrew's day is 30th of November so time to celebrate all things Scottish!!! The other countries have their own days and saints but I haven't a clue when their days are!!
We don't have a "Britian day" as such.
darthrya
Maiden fan since I was 9
Oh, okay. We celebrate Saint Patrick's day and Saint Valentine's day here, but the celebrations have almost nothing to do with the saints and almost everything to do with American commercialization of heritage. Christmas is also celebrated more as a commercial holiday than a religious day of observance.Your loss!!
The only thing we would celebrate would be the days of our patron saints. For example, St Andrew's day is 30th of November so time to celebrate all things Scottish!!! The other countries have their own days and saints but I haven't a clue when their days are!!
yosmark
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Metallicat180
Rockstar-In-Training
They're all "hallmark" holidays. That's why I refuse to celebrate stuff like Valentines day, Mother's/Father's day etc. If I want to do something nice for them, I will cos I want to not because I'm "supposed" to. It means more that way imo. Still do Christmas but it's waaaaay over commercialised.
MiniMurray
Member
CRSCHKUM
BAND MOM
Ok that was ccol now I want to try it with just one bottle
Thanks for sharing.Oh yeah... Hope everyone had a happy 4th
Doodoobubbachuck
Maidens' drums
darthrya
Maiden fan since I was 9
It seemed like everyone within a five mile radius was blowing stuff up from 9:30 pm until 4 am! There wasn't a lull in the sound and view of explosions everywhere until midnight - it really sounded like a small arms battle with distant artillery shells going off. Even after midnight there was still a lot of people setting off fireworks.
On Monday, when I lit off mine, I had a bunch of the artillery shell style that I modified to make more fun. I cut the tube down so that the shell was only a centimeter from the top of the tube. So, instead of getting a shell going about 50 feet up in the air and exploding, it would go about 6-10 feet in the air and explode - louder and closer - much more fun!
On Monday, when I lit off mine, I had a bunch of the artillery shell style that I modified to make more fun.
I cut the tube down so that the shell was only a centimeter from the top of the tube. So, instead of getting a shell going about 50 feet up in the air and exploding, it would go about 6-10 feet in the air and explode - louder and closer - much more fun!
Doodoobubbachuck
Maidens' drums
So, instead of getting a shell going about 50 feet up in the air and exploding, it would go about 6-10 feet in the air and explode - louder and closer - much more fun!
Ah, Hi Def explosives!
Metallicat180
Rockstar-In-Training
It seemed like everyone within a five mile radius was blowing stuff up from 9:30 pm until 4 am! There wasn't a lull in the sound and view of explosions everywhere until midnight - it really sounded like a small arms battle with distant artillery shells going off. Even after midnight there was still a lot of people setting off fireworks.
On Monday, when I lit off mine, I had a bunch of the artillery shell style that I modified to make more fun.
That reminds me of a line in the Simpsons, "Celebrate the independence of your country by blowing up a small part of it!"
Timewarrior2001
Member
Yeah, you better wish us a happy 4th, otherwise we'll declare independence from British music!
Jenna, does the UK celebrate the Glorious Revolution like we celebrate our independence, or do Britons celebrate another day (or none at all)?
St Georges Day ENGLAND April 23rd
St Andrews Day SCOTLAND 30th November
St Davids Day WALES 1st March
St Patricks Day IRELAND 17th March
Other national celebrations
VE Day (Victory in Europe) 7th and 8th May
Rememberance Day 11th November (The 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th Month 1918, the guns fell silent on the western front after 4 years of trench warfare) Remeberance day now includes all the fallen and victims of warfare, people who have suffered for their country.
** Sad fact: Most of the artillery Bombardments on the Somme, could be heard as far away as London!!!!!
Of all of them, St Georges day now seems ot be frowned upon, because it is considered.........incorrect to fly the union flag or the Flag of St George.......by that I mean people take you to be racist for doing so.
I dont celebrate anything other than St Georges day and rememberance day (which isnt really a celebration), even though I am part Irish. I was Born in England, I am English not British.
Great Britian and the United Kingdom are NOT countries.
Metallicat180
Rockstar-In-Training
Hear, hear!!!
Whenever anyone asks me what nationality I am, I always say Scottish and never consider myself British at all. I have nothing to do with England, Wales or Ireland so why should I??
darthrya
Maiden fan since I was 9
That reminds me of a line in the Simpsons, "Celebrate the independence of your country by blowing up a small part of it!"
Very American, indeed.As for the country comment by TimeWarrior and your reply, I hope I didn't offend anyone. Please understand that Americans see all inhabitants of the UK as one in the same, regardless of region, just as much as many others in the world see US inhabitants in the same light, regardless of what region we are from.
Personally, I prefer to view things in a unifying manner because I feel it's more positive - I am a human first, then an American, then a Washingtonian, and not in the other order.
I do have a question - if the UK is not a country, then what is it?
Metallicat180
Rockstar-In-Training
As for the country comment by TimeWarrior and your reply, I hope I didn't offend anyone. Please understand that Americans see all inhabitants of the UK as one in the same, regardless of region, just as much as many others in the world see US inhabitants in the same light, regardless of what region we are from.
Personally, I prefer to view things in a unifying manner because I feel it's
more positive - I am a human first, then an American, then a Washingtonian, and not in the other order.
I do have a question - if the UK is not a country, then what is it?
I don't think you offended him (you didn't offend me anyway) but it's just I think over here we are all fiercely proud of our own seperate countries and heritage and would rather be referred to as them, rather than one collective unit. For example, if Canada, American and Mexico united into one country I'm sure the majority would still refer to themselves as Canadian/American/Mexican. I'm not offended, nor would I object to or correct someone if they said I was British, it's just not the first thing I would call myself.
The UK is a country as such, but Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland are all still referred to as countries - we have our own flags, parliaments, school systems, laws etc so to me they are all seperate countries but we club together on some ideas. Does that make sense??
Timewarrior2001
Member
As for the country comment by TimeWarrior and your reply, I hope I didn't offend anyone. Please understand that Americans see all inhabitants of the UK as one in the same, regardless of region, just as much as many others in the world see US inhabitants in the same light, regardless of what region we are from.
Personally, I prefer to view things in a unifying manner because I feel it's more positive - I am a human first, then an American, then a Washingtonian, and not in the other order.
I do have a question - if the UK is not a country, then what is it?
Nah not offended in anyway at all, sorry if I gavce that impressions, i was kinda ranting, because I envy the way the US are free to be as nationally proud as they like and its somehting that frowned upon in the United Kingdom....more specifically England.
Unbited Kingdom, the United Kingdoms of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Stems from when we were all at war with each other.
We had the scots in their little skirts (sorry metallicat....my defence...I'm English) The Welsh with their wooden clogs and the Irish that just fought anything that moved. Whilst the English invaded and oppressed everyone else.
Well in the end, we where united, in fact the united Kingdoms......clever huh? lol well it is original lmao
Great Britain:
Politically, "Great Britain" describes the combination of England, Scotland, and Wales. It also includes the former Celtic nation of Cornwall, and a number of outlying islands such as the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, the Isles of Scilly, the Hebrides, and the island groups of Orkney and Shetland, but does not include the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands.
Over the centuries, Great Britain has evolved politically from several distinct nations (England, Scotland, and Wales) through two kingdoms with a shared monarch (England and Scotland) with the union of the Crowns in 1603, a single all-island Kingdom of Great Britain from 1707, to the situation following 1801 in which Great Britain together with the island of Ireland constituted the larger United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (UK). The UK became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in 1922 following the independence of five-sixths of Ireland as first the Irish Free State, a Dominion of the then British Commonwealth, and then later as an independent republic outside the British Commonwealth as the Republic of Ireland.
"Great Britain" is often used to mean the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" (UK). However, Great Britain is only the largest island within the United Kingdom, which includes numerous surrounding smaller islands, as well as Northern Ireland in the island of Ireland.
Terms associated with Great Britain – such as Britain or British – are generally used as short forms for the United Kingdom or its citizens respectively.
Great Britain and its abbreviations GB and GBR are used in some international codes as a synonym for the United Kingdom, largely due to potential confusion with "UA" or "UKR" for Ukraine
Hope that offers you a little insight into the boiling couldron of this United Kingdom, although if many people had their own way, Wales would be severed and left to drift towards Dublin.
