Hardcore mix - Framus Cobra content

[Sly]

I'm currently mixing a demo EP for an hardcore band (think Terror, Hatebreed, Bury Your Dead...)
The band recorded the drums themselves with the gear available, bass and guitars were recorded as DI tracks so I can reamp.
They do not play tight so it's kind of hard to make them to sound good, but I think I'm not far from something cool (I hope ).

Here it is.

I used some samples on the drums, but used the room mic a lot to get more natural feel. No toms yet. It's pumping a bit, I'm going to fix that.

I reamped the guitars through Framus Cobra on the lead channel into Mesa oversized cab. I had the OD-820 working to tighten things up. Miced with a 57, one track per side. Vintech X81 pre, Lavry AD10 converters.

The bass does not sound right for the moment, I'm going to reamp it tomorrow.

No vocals.

What do you think ?

 

[J.DavisNJ]

Sounds good dude! I dig that tone a lot.

Do you tend to prefer a Neve or API style preamp for guitars? Neve is generally smoother sounding, right?

Have you ever compared the Maxon 820 to the 808? If so, which did you like better?

thanks man

-Joe

 

[Sly]

Hey Joe,

you're right, different balance ! APIs have more upfront high mids (more bite) and really a tight/punchy low end, whereas Neve pres sound creamier, more body (low mids) and really smooth high mids.
I really like using both, depends on the sound I'm getting of the mic. Sometimes an API pre is the right tool for gritty/in your face style guitars hehe

As for the od, I used to have the 808. Liked it a lot. It's very similar to the 820 but a bit more agressive. I'd say the 820 has more low mids but less bite, it's creamier (very good for a Sneapesque tone).

In this mix I had to compress the guitars a bit to control the low end boom (I used MH Channelstrip because I don't have the C4). Guitars are HP @ 80 Hz.
There's a touch of EQ but nothing more than +1 or -1 db boost/cut.

 

[J.DavisNJ]

Hey Joe,

you're right, different balance ! APIs have more upfront high mids (more bite) and really a tight/punchy low end, whereas Neve pres sound creamier, more body (low mids) and really smooth high mids.
I really like using both, depends on the sound I'm getting of the mic. Sometimes an API pre is the right tool for gritty/in your face style guitars hehe

As for the od, I used to have the 808. Liked it a lot. It's very similar to the 820 but a bit more agressive. I'd say the 820 has more low mids but less bite, it's creamier (very good for a Sneapesque tone).

In this mix I had to compress the guitars a bit to control the low end boom (I used MH Channelstrip because I don't have the C4). Guitars are HP @ 80 Hz.
There's a touch of EQ but nothing more than +1 or -1 db boost/cut.

Very cool, thanks for the info! I've been wanting to try the 820.

-Joe

 

[Sly]

I think you'd really like it.
Anyway I feel that the 808 is a big component of that classic "Adam D guitar tone", raw, agressive, and punchy.
I feel that Sneap tones are generally creamier with bigger low mids, sounds a lot like the 820.

 

[J.DavisNJ]

I think you'd really like it.
Anyway I feel that the 808 is a big component of that classic "Adam D guitar tone", raw, agressive, and punchy.
I feel that Sneap tones are generally creamier with bigger low mids, sounds a lot like the 820.

Cool, I will definitely try it when I have the cash!

I recently bought a Mesa F-100 head. They are virtually unknown to a lot of Mesa owners. It has a kickass clean channel, but a very strange and uncompressed gain channel.

The gain channel really turned me off at first. Not much compression. I added my 808 and it came alive! It was nuts. I like it, because it isn't as compressed as say a 5150, so the palm mutes don't become super choked when using the boost.

I need to make some clips! I think you guys might really dig it.

-Joe

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Thanks nice clip, love to hear framus in action

 

[Sly]

Thanks guys, new mix here, better bass and guitars I guess !

 

[Sly]

New mix with thinner guitars/more metal, I like it.

 

[nwright]

I think the guitars are too quiet, sound a little distant, and the low end seems a little too big in comparison with the rest of the sonic spectrum...It doesn't sound bad, just a little big. That's a subjective statement, though, it's all up to taste.