Heirs to the DT throne?
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TribunalRecords
Record Label(s)/Vocalist
Man I don't know how anyone can be disappointed by Remedy Lane, that album is perfection.
Redemption.
I'm not sure Seventh Wonder really qualifies, but if they do, they are going to be something else. I remember reading one review that said they shouldn't bother with the prog because they write such good songs. I guess what the reviewer meant was that the noodling detracts rather than adds to their songs.
How about Pagan's Mind then?
I'm not sure Seventh Wonder really qualifies, but if they do, they are going to be something else. I remember reading one review that said they shouldn't bother with the prog because they write such good songs. I guess what the reviewer meant was that the noodling detracts rather than adds to their songs.
How about Pagan's Mind then?
dtguitarfan
Prog Lover
I'd say that whoever that was that wrote the review doesn't understand their music, or even prog in general. One of the things I like best about SW is that the band will be playing this incredibly complex instrumental stuff where each member of the band is layering a different rhythm pattern on top if each other, but the singer will be singing this simple, beautiful melody on top of them that sounds like it could almost be a pop song.
I repeat: this is a great thread. Most of the bands that have been listed are near the top of my favorite band list. Milton brought up a great point re: how ground breaking DT was. Leprous is pushing the genre in new and exciting directions. If we use Glenn's criteria, I think Seventh Wonder or Redemption has the best chance at mainstream appeal. Haken's technical chops are as awe inspiring as anything DT has done. Circus Maximus could be a contender, but to my ears, Michael's vocals sound far too processed; I've never been able to get past that when listening to CM. And as much as I have tried, I simply can't get into Pagan's Mind.
I hope people keep listing bands. It's interesting to me to read the thought processes.
I hope people keep listing bands. It's interesting to me to read the thought processes.
I can kinda understand the view. I struggled with it for a while before I finally got it. That album got me used to the fact that PoS wasn't going to do the same thing over and over again and that I should expect the unexpected from them. Since then, I haven't had the problem getting into new albums, because I don't expect them to be The Perfect Element Pt 2.
AngraRULES
Member
That was Scarsick.
But yeah, I know what you mean. At the same time, I used to expect Pain of Salvation to continue being a brilliant prog metal/rock band, not a mediocre "I-wanna-be-bluesy-rock-alt-proggy" outfit. Unfortunately they chose the latter with the Road Salts. I really hope it's just a period and they decide to go back to their old style (and I don't mean repeat themselves).
Yeah, I don't buy that. I think that's just Daniel trying to shut everyone up about it. Personally, I doubt it is coming. Even if it was, it probably would never live up to expectations, particularly since just about everyone who was on that album is gone.
Different strokes for different folks, but I really liked RS1. (Haven't gotten RS2 yet, so I can't judge that.)
AngraRULES
Member
Yeah, sorry but if you look through the booklet, examine the lyrics and understand the concept behind Scarsick, you'll understand how it's directly related to TPE. I did an interview with Gildenlow when Scarsick was released (but since the mag I worked for closed the month after, it neverr got published) where we talked about it in depth. I'll see if I can find it and post it somewhere. After that talk, I have no doubt that is indeed TPE2. Unless he's an incredible liar... Lol
Absolutely.
Justin G
Member
At the end of the day, the only progressive bands that are ever going to have the mainstream appeal of Dream Theater are Opeth and Porcupine Tree. As much as I love Leprous or Voyager, the odds of them signing to a major label or getting attention from Rolling Stone are pretty small.
If we're strictly speaking of our little world and a band that carries forward Dream Theater's style of progressive metal, Redemption seems the likeliest choice.
AngraRULES
Member
I somewhat agree with you, Justin. But when you consider certain bands that have massive appeal such as Tool, The Mars Volta, Mastodon, Coheed and Cambria, etc., I see a bigger chance for Leprous to get popular (and Voyager, though that may be a bit of a stretch) than a band like Redemption or Seventh Wonder (who can write pop-like choruses like nobody else).
And yes, for purposes of DT's style, I said before and I'll repeat. Redemption is the obvious choice, at least a notch above Seventh Wonder and Circus Maximus, who are also fantastic bands.
Well, as I said before, it can only happen if a label decides to push them in the states, put them on a big tour package and they catch on with the public. It has less to do with the quality of the band, but the opportunity presented to them. Inside/Out, as much as I like them as a label, doesn't really do that for bands.
Justin G
Member
I'd be thrilled if Leprous broke big here, but sadly I'm just not expecting it. It's a shame, because they're one of the most talented, most exciting and truly progressive metal bands out there, and they deserve wider attention.
AngraRULES
Member
Exactly. But Leprous has been getting lots of exposure, at least in Europe. Huge tour with Amorphis that just ended, the shows with Ihsahn (they were in Japan recently)... I don't think InsideOut normally pushes their bands, but you occasionally see some of their bands touring around here. Also, considering how hard their booking agent in the US is working to get them over (*ahem*), I wouldn't rule anything out.
AngraRULES
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Azrael LenGraden
Lake Of Fire
This is just my personal opinion...I listened to every band mentioned in this thread (hoping to get turned on to some new music) and while there are some talented musicians in the bands, I do not think any of them can come close to Dream Theater in musicianship, talent, and songwriting. Circus Maximus is the only band listed that I would mention (figures I would agree with Edgeofthorns) in the same breath as DT but I really don't think their styles are all that similar.
DT are my dad's favorite band and I have seen them 13 times so I just felt compelled to chime in.
Rock on!!!
DT are my dad's favorite band and I have seen them 13 times so I just felt compelled to chime in.
Rock on!!!
dtguitarfan
Prog Lover
Let it ferment a bit... ;-) (see my post in the Anubis Gate thread if you're wondering what that means).
DT are, and have been for 12 years, my favorite band. But after listening to a TON of progressive music (some good and some very mediocre) I'm happy to say that there are other bands that, if they had a discography as large as DT or even just close, would easily become my #1 favorite.
dtguitarfan
Prog Lover
I should add that it probably took 8-10 of the 12 years for me to realize that I might actually like other bands more than DT, in all fairness.
Azrael LenGraden
Lake Of Fire
For the record... I would put Vanden Plas up there with DT... while DT may edge VP out in musicianship, I like VPs songwriting as a whole better than DT... and I just ordered the Lost in Thought CD that kicked this whole thread off.:Spin:
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