Heritage

I have the same problem on my mom's side. As far as I've been able to determine, my grandfather is as far back as I can trace the last name(Kamerunds), and all anyone really knows about him is he came from Latvia. Weird.
 
I can NEVER find anything on my last name (Neposchlan)
Grandpa on my moms side was Kopp

edit: and my grandmas name was Chekitis (go Lithuania!!!)

There are lots of Austrians and Germans named Kopp, and I bet you almost anything Neposchlan is a miss-spelling of Neposlan or something like that. Neposlan exists in the Czech Republic, I think, but don't quote me.
 
nope no Czech in this ole' boy. only German, Polish, Lithuanian, Austrian, 1/16 Cheyenne, and a dish of Irish and Italian

It was only slightly changed on the moved to the states. It was either Niposchlan, or Neposchlin. not really sure.
 
So far I am almost certain...I am...
German, Irish...I dont currently know of anything else...and I dont happen to know a dead ancestor...atleast not with last names and first.
 
I'd really like to take on of those gene mapping tests. My mothers family is one of the early Swedish noble families, so I know very many of my maternal ancestors, but noone really seems to know much about my grandfathers father, who died very early.
 
BTW(Off topic) Whats Seraphim stand for...
I know Belial is Wicked....
Just dont know Seraphim...

Seraph (plural seraphim) is from a multitude of sources; most notable the Tanakh and New Testament. In the Tanakh, the seraphim are mentioned only once, and they have six wings - there is no definition of a human-like form (like that of the typical angelarchies developed later). In the New Testament, the are clearly mentioned in Revelation (fucking apocrypha), and chant the Trisagion endlessly. It was only later with Augustine (and prior Dionysus Areopagite...) that the angels started getting more into their roles as 'the top angels' that ceaselessly work for the divine.

Belial...hehehahahaha...by the gods I love the the concept of Belial (more so than that of Gêhinnôm, refuse of waste and sacrifice's to Ba'al Molekh :kickass:). There is so much to the concept/figure that it would be best just to research it yourself.
--of course, in technicality, all this is based off interpreted information from various sources (all which can't agree about a damned thing, like everything else in the world).


It also turns out there is an Order of the Seraphim for the Swedish Royal court: clicky click
That is one sexy medal...
 
well,the safest and cheapest way of tracing your genealogy tree is to do it like that and then an step back:
ask your parents where they were born and where they were registered when born, once there they should appear two names your grand-pa-ma..
with the label "originary from"...then you go to that place where your grans are registered, and find great grands...and all the way back to as far as you can...unluckily in my aread most of those registers are now long time dissapeared due to poor conditions and fires, however i know a lady who traced back to 1400, by herself on her free time...
so you can do it if you have patience...
 
Heh, yeah. A lot of different things, but it pretty much all boils down to 'Swamp Yankee' in my case. :)

You know, that really holds no interest for me. I'd rather stick with the good stories I've been told, then realize we've been the village idiots since time immemorial.

You know, I was just joking around when I said those, and then I came across this... Swamp Yankee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

I seriously thought Swamp Yankee was just something my father made up... but I guess I was right... we have been the village idiots for hundreds of years! :erk:
 
k, so i know precisely the heritage of my 16 great great grandparents.
so here it goes :

4 are celts : breton (celtic part of france)
4 are walloon (that is french belgian.. so a mixture of gauls and franks i suppose..)
5 are norse : 4 norwegians and 1 dane
3 are non-norse germanics : 2 english, 1 german.

so i can say i'm proud to be european :)
 
Well lets see. My heritage.

My father is Swedish. His parents moved to America from Goteborg before he was born. My mother is Half Danish and Half Mohawk Indian. My grandfather is all indian, but is nolonger part of the tribe.

So im half Swedish, a quarter danish and a quarter indian. 3 quarters Norse.
 
Hmm... My father's father's side, well, we've been American since before there was America. From the Mayflower and all that good shit, most of my family on that side still lives within 15-20 miles of Plymouth, except for me, my brother, and two of my uncles. But the other 300 or so of us (that share the Bates name, anyway) haven't moved much in the past 380 years :) My father's mother's mother was from Scotland, and for some reason, that seems to run strong. (I've been told I look very Scottish by my wife's Scottish family, and I look a lot like my father and his half-brother... they look like twins, except for the age difference, but only share the same mother. But they're also both short :p).

My mother's side, well, Omi (which is the best I could do when I tried to say Omah as a little kid, and it stuck) is German. Very German looking, blonde and tall (She's 81 and still about 5'10" or so) and all. Still speaks better German then English, since her, my grandfather, and aunt moved here when she was in her late 20s. My grandfather is a bit harder to track down. We know he came from Latvia about the time of the Soviet occupation, and joined the Kriegsmarine. He changed his name when he got to Germany, and, to the best of my knowledge, never talked much about his homeland to my mother or grandmother. No one knows what his birth name was, and the last name he assumed was only ever used by him, so it's pretty much a dead end. For all I really know, he could not even be Latvian, but he did speak fluent Latvian.

And, honestly, most of this could be bullshit. My father's family is known for having lots of children, and reusing a lot of the same names, so you can't always tell which way you're going when you try and trace the tree.
 
Yeah, that thing you wrote about the Latvian grandfather seems to hold true for many Lativans. I know more than one who have taken on new names and refuse to talk about their Latvian connection. The ones I know, I have assumed are like that because they were mistreated (mild word) by both Germans and Soviets alike, and are too traumatized to want to speak about it. Some have something to hide, because they feel they did what they had to do to survive, which occasionally means joining the enemy or submitting to them. Those things can be difficult to admit even to oneself.
Lativa is one of those countires that's been sandwiched between attackers since the Neolithic. They had a flourishing culture at one point, which then got mushed by Norsemen, Swedish and Russian kings and queens, then the Germans and the Soviets. They've still remained a stong people, though, which is admirable, considering how long it's been since they've been independent. But I can empathise with wanting to remove yourself from the old you from the old country. Not all people who leave a country leave to go to something. Many leave because they are leaving to go from something. It doesn't help any that oftentimes all records were lost in one way or the other.
 
Yeah, there's basically a complete lack of information. My brother's ship was there for a bit over the summer, and he tried to do some research, but came up totally empty handed.

It's my understanding that the Kurši were sometimes known as the Baltic Vikings, as they were also known for being seafaring raiders, and actually raided Sigtuna in the late 12th century. So who, knows, maybe I do have a bit of Viking in my after all... although I admittedly have no idea if my grandfather was actually of that tribe/ethnic group, or just happened to live in the same area. Assuming what I know of where he came from in Latvia is correct, and a lot of other various assumptions.

It would make for a better story, tho.
 
Cool! I bet you I could find something on a raid of Sigtuna! Neat! Sigtuna was the one and only Swedish bishopric for some time, so any goings on there would have been carefully noted in the church logs and reported to the Pope. I'll have to look into that. (Like I have nothing better to do...geez I'm weird...)
 
You know, as I dig deeper, I think Vikings really did conquer the world, and everyone just forgot. Northern Scotland and the islands... settled by the Norse. Northeastern England, the Danelaw, which eventually merged into the Kingdom of England. Even the Normans were Scandinavian in origin... Now my brain is starting to frazzle again.

I even forgot to come up with a question.
 
Yes, Rollo was Norse, but by 1066 the Normans (north man=normand, hence Normandy) were thoroughly Christianized and so brought the feudal system with them to the British Isles. The eastern part of Scandinavia stayed heathen much longer than the western parts, mainly because they traded and raided to the east, where people were still pagan. In other words, not as many Christian influences. It was the Varengian guards and those that came into contact with Christians in Constantinopel that brought the first Christian influences back, which opened the door for the Christian monks etc to come in from the south. Then they in turn battled over sovereignty of the believers in Sweden (which wasn't Sweden yet). Some came from Germany and some came from England, and each group wanted to be the "flavour of the day" as it meant power. The Swedish diocese fell under the Danish bishopric in Lund. Both Germans and Englsih wanted to found bishoprics and the cities that went with that, but it was not until 1164 (don't quote me) that Sweden got it's own bishopric (Sigtuna had then moved to Uppsala). Because of the political goings on amongst the Swedish nobility, the Germans eventually won that battle (both in the religious sense and the actual physical sense). The country was then united under one king, who, since he was a Christian king, got his power from God, uniting politica with religion firmly, and from that point on, the Swedish church and therefore it's politics, followed that of the Germans. Hence, when the English became Anglican, Sweden was unaffected, but when the German church became Lutheran, so did the Swedish. End of daily history lesson.
 
Still no luck. My mother said she's been trying to find out stuff forever, but her father refused to talk about it, and my grandmother "doesn't remember" (She forgets nothing, so we called BS on that. But you can't out stubborn Omi, it just doesn't happen). She did come up with an old birthday card from my great-grandmother, from Siberia, where she was apparently exiled. :mad:
But somehow, my grandfather got into this country without leaving a paper trail at all. I can find my grandmother and aunt in the immigration records, and they all came over together.... but his name isn't on them.