Hi hat panning trend

Drummers usually hit too hard to even need a hi hat mic...WHEN i need it, i pan 30% to the side.

I hardly ever need the hi-hat mic. I always record it but when it comes to mixing I nearly always mute it cause it´s fucking loud in the overheads.
 
c'mon, who listens to music and imagines themselves watching the band in an audience.

me... :erk:

people want to imagine they are performing the music... by singing along, "playing" air-guitar/bass, and air drumming. and since right handed people outnumber lefties by a significant margin, drummer's perspective... with toms L-R (highest to lowest), hats left... is the way to go to satisfy the greatest majority of fans' closet rock-star fantasies.

You're right. However, I refuse to indulge laziness... if they want to satisfy their fantasies, they should get off the couch and learn to play REAL guitar/bass/drums! :heh:
 
I hardly ever need the hi-hat mic. I always record it but when it comes to mixing I nearly always mute it cause it´s fucking loud in the overheads.



I've never muted the hat. Even if the hat is blazing in the overheads i'll eq drastically it so the ultra highs pull the imaging to the left and just tuck it in there a little bit.
 
... people want to imagine they are performing the music...

Except I bet most of them wouldn't know which way 'round the drums should be from the drummer's perspective. And if you know the drummer is a southpaw, should you air-drum left-handed to better fantasize that you're him/her..?

Personally I do prefer the hi-hat in my left ear though, and if it's too far out it is distracting. I'd also rather have the hat too quiet than too loud.
 
I've never muted the hat. Even if the hat is blazing in the overheads i'll eq drastically it so the ultra highs pull the imaging to the left and just tuck it in there a little bit.
Very true. It's doubtful you'll get an awesome HH sound from OH's alone.
Plus if the hat is 'blazing' you kind of fucked up your mic placement anyway. God knows I have had this pointed out on my tracks by mix engineers before. :erk:

Anyway, I like my HH's panned. If you are programming drums w/ no bleed or always listen on phones then perhaps your perspective is a little skewed. At a certain point you can only drive so many things right up the middle before your mix is a total cluster-fuck and/or mono.
 
me... :erk:



You're right. However, I refuse to indulge laziness... if they want to satisfy their fantasies, they should get off the couch and learn to play REAL guitar/bass/drums! :heh:
... so they can quit buying CD's and blag their way into every show for free and pester the band for merch swag like every one else in a band. lol.

hey... face it.. people like to air drum, and despite what omega said, most real music fans have a good idea how drums are laid out and have seen them played enough... and are by statistics mostly right handed, so left handedness is not an issue.... but, with left handed drummers i simply make an exception and pan audience perspective, ;)
 
I usually keep the hats just a little further out than snare. Don't know how much of a difference it makes but just out of habit I usually find myself panning snare a little left (maybe 5%) and then hats at like 10%. Its in the overheads that way anyway. Same with a ride which I'll put a little further out than the floor tom, maybe something like 60% right, depending on how wide I pan my OHs (which are usually 100% L & R unless I'm working on something with less density, then I might put them at like 80%-90%)

As Murphy said, pretty much everyone will catch themselves or be caught air-drumming. That being the case, I always go with drummer perspective. If people get too fucked up watching a video and the sound is panned different than what they are seeing, fuck 'em ... let them listen to something their brains can handle

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