How to get/what to use for a metallic guitar/bass tone?

[TerraModule]

Hi!

I'll be working with a metalcore band soon and they want it to have a Woe, Is Me Genesis sound but i really have no clue at all how I'm getting a such metallic sound on the guitars/bass.

I've been working with Pod Farm whole my life, some people says LePou is the way but if i shall be honest. I've tested LePou but I'm not getting near that tone at all!

I am not asking for a tone preset etc, I'm just wondering what it needs to get a tone like that. What amps i should test, guidance is maybe a great word to express what I need haha.

I've currently been working on some mixing practice stems I've got an hold on here on this forum. I've been using the AtB track to test every possibly way to get that metallic guitar/bass tone but with no luck;

Above the Broken - By morning you'll be gone
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104687151/Above%20the%20Broken%20-%20By%20morning%20you%27ll%20be%20gone%20Mastering.wav

Mayday Parade - When you see my friends (Cover)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104687151/Mayday%20Parade%20-%20When%20you%20see%20my%20friends.wav

Here's the tone i've been writing about, would love to have some answears, guidance or anything to get me on the right track on getting near it.
Cheers!
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[EnjoiTrent]

With pod farm, after your tube screamer/amp/cab, try one of the pod preamps. After that, a compressor and it usually gets you in the ballpark. Then, I personally like to do an eq after pod, and a limiter at the end of the chain.

 

[Gujukal]

It depends a lot on the player and the guitar itself, maybe more so than the actual amp sim. New strings, good high output pickups and hard picking will help u get there.

 

[DannyG95]

Bassically what they just said. Guitarist needs high output pickups, Good strings (Cobalt wound or Titanium wound Ernie balls i find are the best) and for pod farm add an American Classic preamp after the cab, and with eq 2db @ 4k & 6.5k.

That should work!

 

[Gujukal]

Maybe you could try two tube screamers, it's an easy way to get a really djenty sound.

 

[TerraModule]

I'll test that!

The Guitars are recorded with an LTD H-1001 and D'Addario EXL148 strings that were ofc so new they can be!

 

[ConnorGilks]

You do NOT need high output pickups for that sound, but they do help a bit. I use very low - medium output humbuckers and it's no problem getting that tone.

Tube screamer volume all the way up, gain all the way down. Tone to taste, palm muting closer to the neck than usual is a HUGE part of the tone, the biggest part in my opinion. Over the bridge pickup or between the bridge pickup and the bridge, makes it much tighter and scratchier/more metallic. If all else fails boost somewhere around 1.4kHz. I wrote a big-ass guide on djent tone to get people on Sevenstring to shut the hell up about it, hope it helps! Big shout out to Alex Wade for his tip about the palm muting. Was something I was doing without knowing it, totally didn't realize how much it was an integral part of that sound!

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/beginners-faq/219326-guide-djent-tone-updated-march-7-13-a.html

EDIT: As far as bass tone, it doesn't get more metallic and metalcore than Zombass 4. Seriously. I don't use it much but it certainly suits the style.